Publication Work in The Lord's Recovery aka The One Publication

[Trapped]

Originally Posted by Drake

I can see that Trapped is just "itchin" so in the modus and spirit of dialogue vs speeches.... and of the spirit of Bereans vs. Diotrephes let's continue here. Thanks for your patience.

To recap... my summary explanation above is based on the contents of the opening post, where in the last section, Brother Lee borrows the analogy of an army .. and a military trumpet wherein the sound or notes/tune conveys the specific call to action, in this case to battle. In this analogy the trumpet as the instrument blown to sound out the uncertain call to battle, are the publications that are of the same genre, mostly but not exclusively of two authors (Bros Nee and Lee), a few other historical authors (Mary McDonough, Jessie Penn-Lewis; etc.), and the many contributors to Affirmation & Critique, gospel outreach materials, ministry magazine etc. However, regardless of the two most prominent authors, or the other authors, or the variety of "target markets" they each address yet they all have the same "sound" that is, they all convey the same mission, beliefs, truths, and practices to which they have been entrusted by the Lord though their specific focus though emphasis will vary.

I believe Trapped that you will not dispute the point that they are of the same "sound" though in so saying, I'm also certain you don't agree with the analogy, the "sound", or its meaning. Yet again, for our discussion, you nor anyone else are requested to believe it.... rather, it is only relevant that you understand that is what the author (Brother Lee) meant to convey. If you don't think that is what the author meant to convey then explain and we can camp out here for a spell. Else we can probably move on to what you deem a "contradictory statement".

One more thing bears repeating because it is often misunderstood and misstated in this forum. Whether a local church accepts or rejects the ministry and its sounding and its mission does not determine whether it is a local church or not. Brother Lee made that perfectly clear as follows in the opening post:

"Whether or not a certain church takes the ministry does not decide whether that church is a genuine local church............ The ministry is altogether filled up with a fighting spirit. I do not control any church. All the saints who have left the denominations, the divisive sects, and stand on the proper ground are a local church in their locality. They can express their opinions, but they may have nothing to do with this ministry."

Drake

The trumpet is not about having the SAME sound. It is about having a CERTAIN (as opposed to uncertain) sound. Whatever sound you put out, whether flute, or harp, or trumpet, it needs to be certain.

That's a cute quote but the ellipses is telling. It also doesn't mean much to have a few sentences with an accepting tone of generality that are surrounded by paragraphs upon paragraphs of the dead opposite.

This is what is missing:

The title of this message does not say “no uncertain sounding of the trumpet in the Lord’s recovery” but “in the Lord’s ministry.” I am not talking about something in the Lord’s recovery, but I am talking about the ministry. The citizens of the United States may say many things to criticize the government and the commander in chief of the Armed Forces. But when you get into the army and become a soldier, you lose your right to say anything. It is possible to argue, debate, and even fight in the Senate, but even when the senators get in the army and become soldiers, they have to be quiet. There is no uncertain sounding in the army. The ministry is not like the Senate. The ministry is not a Congress for anyone to come here to express his opinion. The ministry has no capacity for that.

We have already gone over the claim that the message does not refer to the Lord's recovery, which is a blatant lie 40 times over.

But what on earth does "..when you get into the army....you lose your right to say anything" mean? I can see why you skipped over that. Where in the flip is the Biblical basis for that? All this does is to make sure to shut up the saints who disagree with this ridiculous proclamation but are fearful to leave over it.

ANY ministry that is worth ANYTHING should be able to stand up to opinion and question. The Lord did not run from opinion or question. LSM/Lee/BB's are actually stating the truth when they say "the ministry has no capacity for that [opinion]". Yes, the ministry genuinely and truly has no capacity for anything but blind, unquestioning, unthinking obeisance. It truly has no capacity to handle anything but it's own echo chamber.

Continue on with your explanation. Thanks.

Trapped