Publication Work in The Lord's Recovery aka The One Publication

[UntoHim]

Originally Posted by Drake

I can't speak to your experience and why the elder demanded that you read only Brother Lee's books. It really baffles me because I have never seen an elder or a leading one exhibit that attitude or behavior in my four decades + about what anyone can read.

You haven't? Then you have clearly not been in the same Local Church of Witness Lee that we are talking about on this forum. Don't know any other way to understand how you could say something so diametrically opposed to the truth. I don't care how long you claim to have been an astronomer, even if it's for 40+ years...you cannot tell us the Moon is made of green cheese. It just ain't so. Care to restate?

Anyway, here's the thing. The "One Publication" is not about what one can read... it is about what LSM will publish under the banner of the ministry they are entrusted with.

Wow, more green cheese, eh? It's starting to smell around here bro. Let me try to go about this another way. Maybe you could tell us about the relationship that the Living Stream has with all the "local churches?" (of course I mean all the local churches associated with LSM) The Living Stream is a publisher. Got it! Cool! They publish the works of Lee and Nee. Check! No problem! What's the relationship between these "local churches" and the Living Stream Ministry? After 40+ years I think you might be able to give us a rather comprehensive description. Leave out the cheese, please!

And finally, in UntoHim's argument he borrowed the "One Publication" term to make a different point, that being that the ONLY publication we as Christians should have is the Bible.

Dude, are you actually reading what I post? I mean, it's like I'm writing in lower Slobovian or something. For God's sake, my man, the very title of this thread is ONE PUBLICATION. I didn't make this term up - it comes directly from the headquarters of the sect/religion you are here defending! Who said the Bible is "the only publication we as Christians should have?" Not me Kemosabe! And nobody else here said anything like that either. Your arguments seem to be with the fellows over there on La Palma Ave in Anaheim, and not with any of us here. I can give you a phone number or email address if you need it. Just say the word...I'm here to help!
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[Drake]

Originally Posted by UntoHim

You haven't? .....Care to restate?

No, I have spoken the truth as I see it. No need to restate it. Were I to say it differently I would not be truthful to myself or to the Lord. Not your experience? Fine. Don't believe me? Also fine. I answer to a higher power and authority, that is to the One who holds the seven Spirits and the seven stars in His right hand.

Yet, this thread is about the One Publication document so:

...please show us from the One Publication document where it says members have to read only Brother Lee...

.. ain't there...

Please show us from the One Publication document where it says members cannot own or read any other authors..

.. ain't there....

Please show us from the Bible were we are to only publish the Bible

..ain't there....

In case you are wondering why I am having these conversations then I suggest you read the basenote.... it is about the ONE PUBLICATION document.. it is not about what an elder said to you, it is not about what you want to believe about preferences in ministries in the local churches, it is not about what Mormons, Catholics, or JW's, publish.... those are completely irrelevant and a fallacy (it looks like this so it must be the same thing)... it is not about who was quarantined and the reasons for it...

....and ain't about green cheese.

Here the problem, the "One Publication" conversation in this forum is not about the One Publication document and its content.... rather, it is about the things you think are related to it..... it is similar to a Russians allegation.... no other explanation will even be considered because the Russians are involved... let's make everything about the One Publication and yet when you actually read the One Publication document it says none of the things you say it means. Now why is that? Why is it that you, rather than demonstrate from the content of the document itself derive all these evil things from it? Why, can't you stop yourself from doing that?

Now, perhaps you can cease and desist with all the generalizations and show me FROM THE ONE PUBLICATION DOCUMENT where it says what you say it does.

If not, then you are merely engaging in Russian like conversations.... effective perhaps at generating some heat... but no light.

Drake

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Drake

Please show us from the One Publication document where it says members cannot own or read any other authors..

.. ain't there....

From https://thebereans.net/lords-recovery/

2. Writings of Witness Lee — Although pretending to allow Local Church members to read other Christian materials, the truth still surface that he wanted each members to be familiar and grounded first in the Local Church theology.

How long are we gonna finish all his books? First indoctrination before other books.

[Drake]

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“We do not need to control the saints, and even more we do not need to stop them from reading what they want."

Kevin,

Thanks for the posting.

Not sure how much clearer this above statement can be. Anyone with pure intentions can see that there is no desire to control what saints read.

As to the rest, it provides insight as to why the LSM publishes what it publishes and it also shows shepherding in the truth for young ones. It would be irresponsible to just tell young ones to go out there and read anything they fancy as if it were all about the same. It's not.

Drake

[awareness]

Originally Posted by UntoHim

Then you have clearly not been in the same Local Church of Witness Lee that we are talking about on this forum.

I've pointed that out before too. Our brother Drake's local church, as depicted out here, isn't anything like the one I was in. It seems to be to me two different local churches. Because bro Drake fears some kind of retaliation he can't tell us about what localities he's been in, down thru the decades, so we're unable to understand why his LC is so different than ours. And I could be wrong, but bro Drake doesn't strike me as delusional.

As far as the controlling of the reading material in the LC I can only speak of my experience, and that of other brothers I was close to, even some of them condemned some of the books I was reading.

In the c. in Ft. Lauderdale, for example, some brothers held their fingers in the shape of a cross, like expelling the devil, because I was reading John Nelson Darby.

I was a big time reader when I came into the c. in Santa Cruz. At the time I was reading 5 books. About a month or so after coming in, and joining a service group, the elders sent a brother to tell me that reading those books wasn't allowed in the local church.

So from the time I joined to the time I left I was told what to read and what not to read.

By comparison, brother Drake's local church sounds great. But my experience, knowing the ways of the local church, tells me that it's prolly just a bait and switch sales pitch.

[Drake]

Originally Posted by awareness

By comparison, brother Drake's local church sounds great. But my experience, knowing the ways of the local church, tells me that it's prolly just a bait and switch sales pitch.

Sorry brother, you've read me wrong. I'm not trying to sell you anything. I love you, but I'm not trying to sell to you. What you hear is not a pitch, it's who I am.

Drake