Publication Work in The Lord's Recovery aka The One Publication

[JJ]

Good come back. You have been well trained, as that example was cited by both Nee and Lee as the basis for their "interpreted word" teaching. Phillip's interpretation helped the Eunich to understand the scripture and turn to Jesus. But Phillip didn't tell the Eunich to put his scripture away. And, the Holy Spirit bore witness to both.

Dropping any one of these things (help from other brothers, written scripture, or Holy Spirit's guidance) is the problem.

I observed saints reading only portions of LSM without the verse references, dead meetings without scripture reading to check what was being said, and praising of Witness Lee and Watchman Nee and/or "the church".

[Evangelical]

Originally Posted by JJ

Good come back. You have been well trained, as that example was cited by both Nee and Lee as the basis for their "interpreted word" teaching. Phillip's interpretation helped the Eunich to understand the scripture and turn to Jesus. But Phillip didn't tell the Eunich to put his scripture away. And, the Holy Spirit bore witness to both.

Dropping any one of these things (help from other brothers, written scripture, or Holy Spirit's guidance) is the problem.

I observed saints reading only portions of LSM without the verse references, dead meetings without scripture reading to check what was being said, and praising of Witness Lee and Watchman Nee and/or "the church".

It's not a replacement for scripture, we never tell anyone to put scripture away. Scripture always comes first.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Evangelical

It's not a replacement for scripture, we never tell anyone to put scripture away. Scripture always comes first.

Just keep them so busy that they don't have time for anything but hwfmr.

Then don't allow them to speak from the Bible, only the hwfmr.

[Evangelical]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Just keep them so busy that they don't have time for anything but hwfmr.

Then don't allow them to speak from the Bible, only the hwfmr.

Still, because of the ministry material, a young one in the Lord's Recovery can expound the scripture better than an old person in the average denomination. Having the ministry material puts all the other churches to shame. And furthermore, the young people are capable to stand up and speak. In most denominations, young people cannot do that.

[Cal]

Originally Posted by Evangelical

Still, because of the ministry material, a young one in the Lord's Recovery can expound the scripture better than an old person in the average denomination. Having the ministry material puts all the other churches to shame.

I gotta love you, Evangelical. You are giving me so much material for my comic strip MOTA!

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Evangelical

Still, because of the ministry material, a young one in the Lord's Recovery can expound the scripture better than an old person in the average denomination. Having the ministry material puts all the other churches to shame. And furthermore, the young people are capable to stand up and speak. In most denominations, young people cannot do that.

The Pharisees could make the same claim.

90% of the young people leave, and you get excited about the 10% who become Know-it-alls.

[Drake]

Originally Posted by Ohio

The Pharisees could make the same claim.

90% of the young people leave, and you get excited about the 10% who become Know-it-alls.

Most of the young people I know have not left and they don't exhibit that attitude.

Drake

[Koinonia]

Originally Posted by Drake

Most of the young people I know have not left and they don't exhibit that attitude.

Drake

Even LC leaders say that 50%+ leave. And from my observation, the number is much higher.

[Evangelical]

Originally Posted by Ohio

The Pharisees could make the same claim.

90% of the young people leave, and you get excited about the 10% who become Know-it-alls.

Even those stats would make any pastor in the denominations jealous.

[Koinonia]

Originally Posted by Evangelical

Even those stats would make any pastor in the denominations jealous.

Do you actually believe that?

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Evangelical

Still, because of the ministry material, a young one in the Lord's Recovery can expound the scripture better than an old person in the average denomination. Having the ministry material puts all the other churches to shame. And furthermore, the young people are capable to stand up and speak. In most denominations, young people cannot do that.

Puts the other churches to shame? Are you even aware of what actually puts a church to shame?

1Cor 6:5 I say this to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you, not even one, who will be able to judge between his brethren? 6 But brother goes to law against brother, and that before unbelievers!

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

Puts the other churches to shame? Are you even aware of what actually puts a church to shame?

1Cor 6:5 I say this to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you, not even one, who will be able to judge between his brethren? 6 But brother goes to law against brother, and that before unbelievers!

Any shame when the manager of LSM gets caught with "interns."

Even our Prez took more heat than "The Office" for the same sins.

Perhaps the proponents of LSM on this forum will use the excuse that a ministry and its staff are not subject to the same standards as elders and churches. The apostle Paul, however, would differ. (II Cor 4.2)

[Cal]

Originally Posted by Evangelical

Still, because of the ministry material, a young one in the Lord's Recovery can expound the scripture better than an old person in the average denomination. Having the ministry material puts all the other churches to shame. And furthermore, the young people are capable to stand up and speak. In most denominations, young people cannot do that.

There are all kinds of material available to indoctrinate young people if your goal is to fill them with theology. Any church could to that and they wouldn't need Lee's ministry to do it.

What most leaders have figured out is that doesn't work. What works is helping kids have a love for God and others. Inundating them with theology can just give them a false sense of spirituality--as it has done with (ahem) some people we know.

As for being able to speak in meetings, the LCM practice may teach kids to mindlessly repeat things they don't even really believe to get crowd approval. Not very healthy.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Igzy

As for being able to speak in meetings, the LCM practice ...

Initially, being encouraged to speak in meetings was only a positive, at least for me, because we were encouraged to publicly give our personal testimonies.

Later on the exhortation to speak in meetings was still mostly positive because, even though we used Lee's messages as a starting point, we in the GLA were encouraged to go back to the Bible for our truth and inspiration.

Repeating hwfmr with robotic amen's has little spiritual value.

[Evangelical]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Initially, being encouraged to speak in meetings was only a positive, at least for me, because we were encouraged to publicly give our personal testimonies.

Later on the exhortation to speak in meetings was still mostly positive because, even though we used Lee's messages as a starting point, we in the GLA were encouraged to go back to the Bible for our truth and inspiration.

Repeating hwfmr with robotic amen's has little spiritual value.

You are talking about the difference between those who use their spirit and those who don't.

[least]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Just keep them so busy that they don't have time for anything but hwfmr.
Then don't allow them to speak from the Bible, only the hwfmr.

No. That's only fmr. Just like licking the bbq sauce off the chicken.
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