Publication Work in The Lord's Recovery aka The One Publication

[aron]

Originally Posted by Igzy

I understand your frustration at wasted time. But don't waste more time trying to figure out why other people are crazy, you have enough on your plate just managing your own life. At some point you have to say "Thanks, but this is not for me," and move on.

I respectfully disagree on two fronts. First, one must figure out what happened to truly move on. It's like a relationship - the danger is that you break off an abusive one & simply enter another. When I left the LC I went into a group where women were literally "silent in the church", because Paul had said this. Headcoverings were likewise mandatory. They didn't take a name or register with the government because, "Its not in the Bible". And they were arguably more controlling than the LC. They micromanaged lives and families with black-and-white verses.

Second, as you begin to figure things out to your own satisfaction you can help others who may be struggling with the same issues & questions. That way one's experiences are used by God to serve others (help them break off controlling and manipulative relationships). The issue proves the process - one's proved free by helping others along the path. Look at Jesus' words to Peter in Luke 22:32. See also Psa 51:12,13 - one's journey back to light is not for oneself but for others, else it's for naught.

[Cal]

Originally Posted by aron

I respectfully disagree on two fronts. First, one must figure out what happened to truly move on. It's like a relationship - the danger is that you break off an abusive one & simply enter another. When I left the LC I went into a group where women were literally "silent in the church", because Paul had said this. Headcoverings were likewise mandatory. They didn't take a name or register with the government because, "Its not in the Bible". And they were arguably more controlling than the LC. They micromanaged lives and families with black-and-white verses.

Second, as you begin to figure things out to your own satisfaction you can help others who may be struggling with the same issues & questions. That way one's experiences are used by God to serve others (help them break off controlling and manipulative relationships). The issue proves the process - one's proved free by helping others along the path. Look at Jesus' words to Peter in Luke 22:32. See also Psa 51:12,13 - one's journey back to light is not for oneself but for others, else it's for naught.

I agree in principle, but the question is: To what degree do you take those efforts? Certainly you need to figure some things out, but there also needs to be some closure. God has called us to life and peace, and the idea that a lack of complete clarity about what happened need steal your peace must not hold.

Trust me, I'm one of those people who want to know EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED. But experience has shown me we can't understand everything, at least not right away. One reason I visit here is to see if there are more insights. If I made my happiness dependent on understanding everything I'd waste my life.

Also, if anyone is out there who feels like they will not have any peace in their life until the LC is exposed, brought down and put in its place, I would say to them that is a symptom of your still being controlled by them. Let that go. Try to be more objective, remove your sense of self-esteem or God's esteem for you from the equation. Your peace about YOURSELF cannot depend on the LC getting its just desserts or even admitting to anything.

We all post here because, in part, we want to see the LC exposed and justice to be served. But don't make your sense of peace and freedom depend on that. That's my point.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Igzy

I agree in principle, but the question is: To what degree do you take those efforts?

My own personal experience is that it could take decades to change a local churcher, or in my particular experience an ex-LCer.

And the only reason to stay at the task is because of loving them. Otherwise you won't stay at it.

I wormed the brother for years. Worming is throwing the truth on their hard noggin, so that the worms eventually bore down into their head, and a little light comes in, and then a aha moment happens.

But it can take years, even decades, for the worms to bore thru. And when they do, you won't get any credit for it. Which is the way it should be.