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Originally Posted by Evangelical

You think the shadows are more important than Christ then?

I would be more cautious putting things into the "shadows" category and lower their importance.

Originally Posted by Evangelical

Of course a person can be moral without faith. There are many good atheists, some who put even Christians to shame in their morals.

I take it as you were only referring to human moral law and not God's moral law in the Old Testament. Aren't we supposed to be God-centered people trying to understand things from His perspective instead?

Originally Posted by Evangelical

When did I ever say that pleasing God enough will do that. Did I not say that without faith it's impossible to please God?

You said "it doesn't please God enough that He would grant eternal salvation and the gift of the Spirit." Sounds like something else would please God enough that He would grant eternal salvation. May be that's not what you meant. I'll take this back.

Originally Posted by Evangelical

Disagree. The bible speaks of good men and evil men (Matt 12:35). A good man would be a moral person.
God's creation is inherently good, even though it was corrupted through the fall.
When Paul writes that there is not a single righteous person, this is in context of pointing us towards our need for a Savior. This does not deny the fact that there are good people and bad people in the world. Sometimes good people are called righteous people, meaning people who do or say what is right. This would be righteousness in character, not righteousness for salvation.

Seems you are referring to human moral standards again here.

Originally Posted by Evangelical

The question is, does Micah always reveal Christ in everything he says in absolutely every way? I think only Christ himself can perfectly reveal Christ.
Don't forget that fallen Creation reveals Christ too (Romans 1:20). I'm open to the idea that a person does not have to be led by the Spirit to reveal Christ. I have heard of unbelievers preaching the gospel and this resulting in salvations.

You have wandered off again. We were specifically talking about Micah 6:8 all the time. What does it have to do with always revealing Christ in everything Micah says in absolutely every way?

You are right about who/what can reveal Christ. Even demons revealed the identity of Son of God. But I am quite confident that Micah is not in that category.

Prophets like Micah simply do not (dare not?) use Jehovah's name lightly to support their own human concept.