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Old 01-01-2018, 06:03 PM   #11
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Are you saying Micah only wrote about the shadow so it is not God's revelation? But you said the law was to point towards Christ. How about the ten commandments? They are shadows and not God's revelation?
I understand Lee's use of the term "divine revelation" to refer to that concerning Christ, our salvation, and the church, and the future. Of course, the Law given to Moses was a divine revelation to him at the time. But compared to the New Testament it pales in comparison. The shadows were not God's will or plan for eternity - they served a temporary purpose.

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You said being only a moral person cannot please God as if it is something that can be achieved by humans alone. Yet you said we are unable to keep moral laws.

Don't you see the contradiction inside your thoughts?
I meant "being a moral person without faith does not please God". It doesn't please God enough that He would grant eternal salvation and the gift of the Spirit.

However, I'm open to God being lenient towards people who have not had the opportunity to hear about Christ who follow their conscience - they might be given an opportunity to believe in Christ at the resurrection.

Unable to keep moral laws refers to our inability to do it perfectly (we always need a Savior). Because humans are created as good-natured (despite the fall), it is possible for people to have a level of morality which is very good, yet insufficient for eternal salvation.

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Micah actually did point us to Christ as the Way to fulfill these "moral laws". Perhaps only the veiled Isralites missed the point.
Micah reveals Christ yes, even Lee wrote that. But I thought we are talking about this particular footnote. Let us not forget that everyone under the old testament period was veiled, even Moses and the greatest prophets. Jesus said whoever is least in the kingdom is greater than John the Baptist (and the old testament prophets).
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