Is the Processed, Four-in-One God a sound doctrine?

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Originally Posted by Drake

Sorry Bible-believer, I overlooked this question. Thanks for calling my attention to it.

The answer is Yes! Jesus is Jehovah.

Jehovah means I Am. I Am that I Am.
Exodus 3:14-15
"And God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM. And He said Thus you shall say to the children of Israel, I AM has sent me to you. And God also said to Moses, Thus you shall say to the children, Jehovah, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you. This is my name forever, and this is My memorial from generation to generation."

Jesus said He was the I Am.... three times in John 8. John 8:24, 28, 58

John 8:24 "Therefore, I said to you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am, you will die in your sins."

v28 "Jesus therefore said to them, When you lift up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am, and that I do nothing from Myself, but as my Father has taught Me, I speak these things."

v58 "Jesus said to them, Truly, truly, I say to you, Before Abraham came into being, I am"

In John 8:24 the Lord gives a solemn warning; anyone who does not believe that the Lord Jesus is this very God, the I Am, will die in his sins.

Thanks
Drake

Drake,

Regarding the "I am" connection......the blind beggar in the next chapter, John 9, said the same thing:

John 9:9
Some were saying, "It is he," but others, were saying, "No, but he is like him." He kept saying, "I am he."

It's the same Greek word - eimi.

Was the blind beggar claiming to be Jehovah? Nope. "I am" or "I am he" or "I am the one" is a legitimate and common phrase in any language. It's presence does not mean a God-claim unless the context is there for it.

In fact, in that same chapter, Jesus says explicitly He and the Father are as two completely different people.

John 8:17-18
17 Even in your own Law it is written that the testimony of two men is valid.
18 I am One who testifies about Myself, and the Father, who sent Me, also testifies about Me.”

He tells them that He "tells [them] the truth that [He] heard from God." He doesn't say "I tell you the truth because I am God."

You bring up verse 58, which says:

“Truly, truly, I tell you,” Jesus declared, “before Abraham was born, I am!”

...and say that's Jesus claiming to be Jehovah, for which they picked up stones to stone Him. But don't forget, two chapters later in chapter 10, Jesus asks the Jews explicitly what they are stoning Him for. They respond because He declares Himself to be God. But Jesus responds not affirming their claim that He declares Himself to be God, but correcting them that He states that He is God's SON.

John 10:32-36
32 But Jesus responded, “I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone Me?”
33 “We are not stoning You for any good work,” said the Jews, “but for blasphemy, because You, who are a man, declare Yourself to be God.”
34 Jesus replied, “Is it not written in your Law: ‘I have said you are gods’?
35 If he called them gods to whom the word of God came—and the Scripture cannot be broken—
36 then what about the One whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world? How then can you accuse Me of blasphemy for stating that I am the Son of God?