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Old 09-02-2021, 12:20 PM   #27
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Default Re: Is the Processed, Four-in-One God a sound doctrine?

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Bible-believer... okay... let's read and study the word of God. If I teach anything that you do not believe to be in the Bible then call that out and let's compare scripture with scripture. I'll do the same.

Obviously, 1 Cor 12:12 does not completely define what is meant by the title phrase... but in my view it provides clarity on the principle.... here is what I mean.

12"For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ."

Paul uses the physical human body to express the spiritual reality concerning Christ. Our head and body are one by an organic physiology and animated by our human life. Our physical body only functions because of the human life and without it we don't have a functioning body ..... rather there is only a corpse. In Paul's analogy of the human body he did not in this verse use the words "human life" but since he speaks of a functioning body then it is already presumed. A corpse has no ability to function and Paul saw no need to explain here that a human body must have life in order to function. The Corinthians knew that else Paul's analogy would make no sense. From the other verses you quoted about the Spirit I assume you and I are in agreement about this most basic and fundamental teaching of the Bible ----that He came that we might have life and have it abundantly (John 10:10) and Christ is our life (Col 3:4) and for us to live is Christ (Phil 1:21)

If this basic truth is not understood then most everything in the New Testament would be closed to us because everything that pertains to the Christian life, the growth in the divine life, fruit bearing, the Body of Christ, and God's purpose issue from the seed of divine life that then grows in life (Matt 13:23). That began with our regeneration.

Bible-believer, assuming we are in agreement about the the testimony of the Scripture concerning the life of Christ in us (if not we can backup before going forward) then we can examine how Paul applies the analogy of the human body to Christ. Just as a human body has a head and a body and lives and functions as an organic whole according to the life within so also the Christ has a Head and a Body, functions according to the life of Christ, grows with the growth of God.

According to Eph 4:16 only that which issues out of the Head may be considered the Body of Christ.

I'll pause to hear your point of view on this so far. Based on your previous response I am certain that we are in agreement on this part. But again, I do not want to presume.

Thanks,
Drake
Once again, you are making statements separate from Scripture and then overlaying them on top of a portion of Scripture that is not about that statement.

You speak of the the head and body living and functioning "as an organic whole according to the life within". 1 Corinthians 12 never mentions a life within, or even Christ as the head. The word "head" appears only once and it is not in reference to Christ, but just in reference to being just another part of the example body (although Christ IS the head as taught elsewhere, it is just not the point in this portion). Paul does not mention the shared life creating an "organic whole" or anyone functioning "according to the life within".

I could easily say "Paul did not need to mention that a human body lives and functions as an organic whole.......but it is obvious that any infection in the body could spread to the head too, so we need to make sure we as the body are healthy so we don't spread gangrene to Christ the head and cause Christ to die with the body. Paul didn't say that, or allude to it, or mention it at all, but it was obvious and so Paul didn't even need to say it.....just accept what I say!"

But Paul isn't talking about any of that. Just like he's not talking about what you are stating.

Paul is speaking of distinctions and varieties of members and gifts.

Take an analogy outside of it's biblical bounds and you get deviated teachings. Even if it sounds good.

Paul is saying just as a human body has many parts and is still one body, so Christ is the same way - His body has many parts with much variety and distinction one from the other, and yet is still one body.

Find another verse to prop up the four-in-one God teaching.

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