Is the Processed, Four-in-One God a sound doctrine?

[Drake]

Originally Posted by Bible-believer

A text without a context is a pre-text. I understand Bible passages by comparing verses with verses in the contexts.
There is one body. Paul, Peter, James, and John are in Christ and in God and are indwelt by the Holy Ghost (John 17:21–26). There is ONE BODY and one Spirit, and the same Spirit who baptized Peter, James, and John into it at Pentecost, baptized the Corinthians into it in 1 Cor. 12:13, and us, too.

1Cor. 12:11-12 “11But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will. 12For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.

1Cor.12:12-27 begins a practical discussion of the Body of Christ.
Eph. 4:12 “There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;”
"There is One Body (the Church) and One Spirit (the Holy Spirit), even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; One Lord (Jesus), One Faith, ONE BAPTISM (of the Holy Spirit), One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all." Eph. 4:4-6.
2 Cor.12:13-14 “13For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.14 For the body is not one member, but many.
The fact that the Church is a "Body" made up of "living members". Paul has illustrated v.14 in vss.15-17 that once a man is in the Body of Christ, he is a member.
Paul, in v. 17, said that God has given a particular job to each member of the Body of Christ. Each Christian is to do the job the Lord has set for him to do. v. 18. We are the body of Christ, and Jesus Christ himself is the Head. The body does things according to the Head’s will (see v.11 the One Spirit's will).
Vss. 22–23 are about the Body of Christ and about the cohesion of the Body, how it sticks together and operates together. It shouldn’t have any schism or splits in it. He likens it to a human body.
V. 27, “Now ye are.” Definition: “the body of Christ.” Plural, “ye are the body of Christ.” There’s the one Body. There are many churches, but there is one Body that is THE Church, the Church of God. “and members in particular.”
Why call the Church the "Body of Christ?" A body is for the manifestation of a personality. Christ, who is now in glory, can manifest Himself to the world through His Body THE CHURCH, so the world can see Christ in Christian believers, who are His Body. Paul said, “For to me to live is Christ”.

Thanks Bible-believer for your reply. I've read and pondered it a few times and cannot disagree with any of it. Not that I was looking to find something to disagree with but rather to see if your understanding of 1 Cor 12:12 was similar to mine. So, rather than presume that it is I'd like to return to that verse and in future posts return to your excellent and relevant points in your reply.

12"For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ."

This verse states that our human physical body is like the Christ. We have a head and a body ...so also Christ. His body here refers to His corporate Body... the many members of Christ. The Head (Christ) and His Body (all the believers) are one in the same way that our head and bodies are also one. They are not only connected and attached but also are intrinsically one life and one living.

Do you agree with my understanding of this verse?

Drake

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Drake

Thanks Bible-believer for your reply. I've read and pondered it a few times and cannot disagree with any of it. Not that I was looking to find something to disagree with but rather to see if your understanding of 1 Cor 12:12 was similar to mine. So, rather than presume that it is I'd like to return to that verse and in future posts return to your excellent and relevant points in your reply.

12"For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ."

This verse states that our human physical body is like the Christ. We have a head and a body ...so also Christ. His body here refers to His corporate Body... the many members of Christ. The Head (Christ) and His Body (all the believers) are one in the same way that our head and bodies are also one. They are not only connected and attached but also are intrinsically one life and one living.

Do you agree with my understanding of this verse?

Drake

Hi Drake,

You forgot to say that only those in the Recovery are the body of Christ, and not those in "degraded Christianity." I heard that many times during my visits to Anaheim.

[Trapped]

Originally Posted by Drake

Thanks Bible-believer for your reply. I've read and pondered it a few times and cannot disagree with any of it. Not that I was looking to find something to disagree with but rather to see if your understanding of 1 Cor 12:12 was similar to mine. So, rather than presume that it is I'd like to return to that verse and in future posts return to your excellent and relevant points in your reply.

12"For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ."

This verse states that our human physical body is like the Christ. We have a head and a body ...so also Christ. His body here refers to His corporate Body... the many members of Christ. The Head (Christ) and His Body (all the believers) are one in the same way that our head and bodies are also one. They are not only connected and attached but also are intrinsically one life and one living.

Do you agree with my understanding of this verse?

Drake

Notice that your conclusion is nowhere found in 1 Corinthians 12. The full portion of verses that you pulled verse 12 from is about distinctions of members, variety in the body of Christ, and distinctions of gifts.

That's the comparison. That's the metaphor. (The exact opposite of "having no individual distinction" that Witness Lee taught concerning blending using that portion of Scripture, for the record).

If you speak of "intrinsically one life" you are going beyond what scripture says in that portion. "Life" is nowhere mentioned in 1 Corinthians 12. The analogy to the human body is to show the variety of members working together as one, and stops well short of some kind of a head/body shared life.

Our life is hidden with Christ in God. Christ lives in us. But we don't have "the life of Christ", and have to stretch scripture past recognition to make that claim in order to leapfrog into a "four-in-one God". As I mentioned previously in this thread, errors quickly build upon errors.

If you google "we have the life of Christ", most of the search results are LSM related blogs or sites. The others are a small, random scattering of returns. Notice that Galatians 2:20 says that Christ lives in us. This is a completely different thing from the Lee claim that "we have the life of Christ".

Notice that? Lee uses similar sounding biblical words to what is in scripture. But words and grammar mean something, and his juggling the words in a big blur in front of our eyes changes the meaning. Keep your eyes on what the Word says!

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[GraceAlone]

I came across this article recently and thought it might be pertinent to the discussion of eisegesis vs. exegesis, taking verses out of context, etc.

“Never Read a Bible Verse.”

https://www.str.org/w/never-read-a-b...nd%20uplifting.

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Originally Posted by GraceAlone

I came across this article recently and thought it might be pertinent to the discussion of eisegesis vs. exegesis, taking verses out of context, etc.

“Never Read a Bible Verse.”

https://www.str.org/w/never-read-a-b...nd%20uplifting.

Great article. Thanks for sharing!