God's economy vs Deputy authority

[rayliotta]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

When you respond with "righteous indignation" it indicates that you did not know. It may well be that some knew, but clearly it is not right to say "they all knew". The ones who knew beforehand would be the ones with some mealy mouthed justification for immoral actions. They try to justify the acts because they are afraid that any objection will ultimately lead to the discovery that they were complicit in the crime.

So I exaggerate a little. Incidentally, your comments here go to my point --

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

Yes, that is the bottom line. However, if you look solely at the ministry of WL and WN prior to 1980 it is conceivable to have operated under the assumption that the LRC was aspiring to live by the Biblical version of authority. There were very few events that could expose the lie. The events with JI, WL and PL in the 1980s put that to the test and since then I think it has become less and less conceivable to live under this illusion. Because JI was well known to all, and was closely associated with both WL and LSM I think it should have forced many saints to examine the events.

My whole experience is post-1980's events. And I know you see this as a kind of demarcating line. But the further you peel back the onion...before the 80's, there was MR, before MR, there was Daystar, before Daystar there was the Seattle World's Fair. And throughout all of this, there were migrations, consolidations...again, didn't Witness Lee handpick elders in the 70's in localities other than Anaheim and Irving? Not to mention that the Recovery idea of "deputy authority" was already being preached. By the time you get to 1986, it's all baked into the cake.

In 1984, Madonna sang Like A Virgin. Ten years earlier, Witness Lee said, "The saints lost their virginity." I have a lot of difficulty seeing leaders like John Ingalls as naive virgins in the post-Madonna Recovery. Just like I have a lot of difficulty seeing LSM's current spokespeople as ignorant of the things of which we speak publicly here on the Internet.

http://localchurchdiscussions.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?p=6298

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But I was really more interested in hearing your response to my other post...