God's economy vs Deputy authority

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by rayliotta

But I was really more interested in hearing your response to my other post...

I did respond to that post, but my response is not here, I don't know what happened to it. Basically I said a better analogy would be for a soldier in Afghanistan. One person could see that GW Bush had a big influence in his life, but others could say that it really wasn't GW but Osama that started the war, and still others are arguing that the engineering evidence cannot possibly be explained by airplanes crashing into the towers so they are blaming a "Gulf of Tonkin" like event.

But if you ask the soldier he may say that Bush had very little to do with his life, he didn't enlist because of him, nor did he ever fellowship with him, etc. He may be much more focused on the experiences he had and the people he knew.

I also went into detail that to give credit to WL for the building of the Irving hall is to completely trivialize the contribution of those that donated the money, time, labor, hospitality, etc. that resulted in that hall being built. Also, that 18 months was an amazing experience in every way. PL's sins do not in any way tarnish the experience.

As to JI being knowledgeable I would have no idea, I didn't know him, I was only in one conference he shared. When I speak about the recovery in generic terms like "it was possible to be in the LC and think that you aspired to the Biblical principles" JI and other "leaders" are never in my consideration. I am always considering my personal experience and the saints I knew first hand.

[rayliotta]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

I also went into detail that to give credit to WL for the building of the Irving hall is to completely trivialize the contribution of those that donated the money, time, labor, hospitality, etc. that resulted in that hall being built. Also, that 18 months was an amazing experience in every way. PL's sins do not in any way tarnish the experience.

Let's imagine for the moment that the pyramids were not in fact built by aliens. That they actually were built by slaves, chiseled like Rambo, hauling those stones up there.

To say that the king built the pyramids would be to trivialize the tremendous sacrifice of the men who actually built the things.

But to say that those men did not build the pyramids for the king, on behalf of the king, to deny that, would simply be denial.

Er, da Nile.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by rayliotta

Let's imagine for the moment that the pyramids were not in fact built by aliens. That they actually were built by slaves, chiseled like Rambo, hauling those stones up there.

To say that the king built the pyramids would be to trivialize the tremendous sacrifice of the men who actually built the things.

But to say that those men did not build the pyramids for the king, on behalf of the king, to deny that, would simply be denial.

Er, da Nile.

I have already conceded that is a valid viewpoint, just like Fox News has a valid viewpoint. It doesn't mean that their viewpoint is the same as for a soldier on the ground. By the way, if alien's didn't build the pyramids why isn't there soot on the walls? Assuming they couldn't see in the pitch dark, what did they use for light if it wasn't a torch that leaves soot on the walls?

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

I have already conceded that is a valid viewpoint, just like Fox News has a valid viewpoint. It doesn't mean that their viewpoint is the same as for a soldier on the ground. By the way, if alien's didn't build the pyramids why isn't there soot on the walls? Assuming they couldn't see in the pitch dark, what did they use for light if it wasn't a torch that leaves soot on the walls?

I thought Israel built them while in captivity.

[UntoHim]

Sorry guys, call me a stick in the mud...
But I'm going to have to ask that we not get into all the aliens, pyramids and soot on the wall stuff. There are all sorts of Internet forums to discuss these kind of things. Please...let's just stick with the subject at hand.
Thank you.
Signed,
your beloved but unappreciated inglorious topiq nazi

[Cal]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

By the way, if alien's didn't build the pyramids why isn't there soot on the walls? Assuming they couldn't see in the pitch dark, what did they use for light if it wasn't a torch that leaves soot on the walls?

The aliens didn't build the pyramids, but the Egyptians used a non-soot producing light source which was left behind by the aliens.