Is the Processed, Four-in-One God a sound doctrine?

[aron]

I want to post a little more on the perfect law of freedom that James 1 mentions, and how it relates to our situations, including being stuck in a group of religious zealots who don't really care much about what the Bible says, unless they can shoehorn it into one of their pet causes.

One doesn't think much of "law" and "freedom" together. But the perfect law is different. Because of humanity's suffering under sin and death, the perfect law sets us free. Because of Jesus' obedience, including the sacrificial atoning death, we who obey him are set free from self, from anxiety, and even death. O death, where is your sting?

Hebrews 5:7 Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared;

8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;

9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;

10 Called of God an high priest after the order of Melchisedec.

Jesus taught that the children of the Kingdom are free. I believe that they are under the perfect law, to love God and love one another. Your situation isn't as bad as you think, if you only have a little courage and a little faith.

Originally Posted by Ohio

It is extremely important to address the character of those who claim to be Ministers of the Age on par with the original Apostles.

The thread is on how to talk to church members about their beliefs, and what the Bible says about their doctrines, including but not limited to the Four-in-one God. Bad doctrine engenders bad behaviours, but the thread was on bad doctrines and how to address them if you are an LC member or have family/friends enmeshed in the thinking.

The Trinity I don't talk much about, because it seems to be a conceptual overlay. The only verse that directly supports the Trinity seems to be a forgery. I'm speaking of the so-called Johannine Comma in the Vulgate and KJV. It says, "The Three testify, and the Three are One". Seems like bad form if the only verse to support your thesis was a late insertion!

But I accept it as Christian Doctrine, because that's what history brought me. But a Three-in-One or Four-in-One probably doesn't affect my Christian walk unless I obsess on it in an unbalanced way.

My recommendation to all is to fortify oneself with the truth, as laid out in text. Where the text is uncertain, hold it, but carefully, not as a point of contention. Let me give an example. Jesus says that he will appear with in glory.

Matthew 25:31 When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the angels with Him, He will sit on His glorious throne.

Luke 9:26 For whoever is ashamed of Me and My words, the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when He comes in His glory, and the glory of the Father and of the holy angels.

Mark 8:30 For whoever is ashamed of Me and My words in this adulterous and sinful generation, the Son of Man will also be ashamed of him when He comes in the glory of His Father with the holy angels.”

So, in these verses I see what I call a 'proto-trinitarian formula', of the glory of the Son and the Father and the holy angels. But the angels are plural, ministering spirits, so how does this become the singular Holy Spirit? Or, how does it relate? We know that the singular capital 'h' capital 's' Holy Spirit [which is one] fills all things, including presumable the multitudinous holy angels. But beyond that I can't say. Yet my gospel confession isn't changed by what I don't know, and I don't get stumbled if other think this or that.

But if Watchman Nee was the Apostle of the Age, who was before him? Darby? Why did WN copy Jessie Penn-Lewis and not Darby in his 'Spiritual Man' if Darby was the preceding AotA? And who followed Paul? Timothy? I don't see it. And did James receive Paul as AotA in Jerusalem? Or was he 'rebellious'? Neither, clearly. And who was AotA, John Wesley or Jonathan Edwards, seeing as they both ministered separately? Or was one 'rebellious'? Hardly.

And how did the age change from the Age of Spiritual Giants when WL passed? That's what the Blendeds told us from the podium. What scripture supports a sequential string of singular AotA until the Last Spiritual Giant? There is no scriptural basis whatever.

I don't contend for ideas, but if someone else tries to impose theirs I'm ready to defend my space. I wasn't as a college student, and got ensnared by this group. So I share these few posts if any feel endangered by them. They can't touch you. You are free.