Is the Processed, Four-in-One God a sound doctrine?

[Trapped]

Originally Posted by UntoHim

My brother aron...
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I think aron's remarks are pointed at LSM, not at the thread.

[aron]

Originally Posted by Trapped

I think aron's remarks are pointed at LSM, not at the thread.

UntoHim doesn't think he's playing games. And I get his protest - arguably, he's not. But my point is that anyone who goes onto their (LSM, DCP) ground and tries to debate "trinity" versus "four-in-one God" is playing their game on their rules. And that is a game, a vain exercise.

Who on this forum has gone to an LSM Bible study or Facebook page or chat forum and corrected them, or even made any headway at all, gotten any acknowledgement that the "four-in-one God" idea may possibly need, um, some adjustment? If anyone has, I stand down. Otherwise I rest my case.

Now, on this forum it's different. But on this forum who's defending the "four-in-one God"? If none, then pursuing the matter will soon become an exercise in posturing.

Has anyone gone to Kerry Robichaux' Bible study, or with anyone promoting his writing, and gotten admission that there's any meaningful content in John 1:51 past a "ladder", "an uplifted standing staircase", or an "incorporated Triune God"? If so, I stand down. Otherwise I rest my case.

I'm not saying anyone on this forum is playing games. I'm saying that if you engage them with parsing's of words, that's what they do for a living. You're in their turf, on their terms. I don't see that as anything but an exercise in fruitlessness. But I may be wrong. I'm just a person with an opinion. Others may think differently and that's okay, too. Sorry if my stridency is off-putting... I really use it for my own protection, because I got caught, once. And I don't want to again.

[UntoHim]

Thanks aron for you thoughtful post. As always, your points are well taken.

I still think it's important and worthwhile (for those of us who think it's important and worthwhile) to try our best to answer the question at hand. For those of you who think it's an exercise in posturing, or fruitlessness or that we are merely engaging LSM on their turf, I would ask you to give others the grace and latitude to assist Bible-believer and anyone else concerned, by answering the question at hand by speaking the truth in love as best we know it.

In any event, and as always, may the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, guard our hearts and our minds in Christ Jesus.
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[Ohio]

Originally Posted by UntoHim

I still think it's important and worthwhile (for those of us who think it's important and worthwhile) to try out best to answer the question at hand.
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OK, here has long been my response ...

Whether it be the "4-in-1 God" or any other of their exclusive and esoteric doctrines, I respond simply that it's not in the Bible. This is why Bible-believer is/was troubled in the first place. There is no verse that says "4-in-1 God". Both Jesus and the Apostles had ample opportunity to say things like this, of such great import, but they did not. Why not?

Why should we focus on that which is not in the Bible and miss that which is? Isn't the Bible enough? Should we not stick to our common faith?

[UntoHim]

Applicable Quote from Witness Lee:

Ultimately, the church is a group of people who are in union with the Triune God and are mingled with the Triune God. The Triune God and the church are four-in-one. Because the Father, the Son, and the Spirit are all one with the Body of Christ, we may say that the Triune God is now the “four-in-one God.” These four are the Father, the Son, the Spirit, and the Body.
A Deeper Study of the Divine Dispensing p.203-204

Originally Posted by Zezima

It’s not a trap, it’s healthy to compare a teaching to the Bible. It’s a trap not to do this.

Originally Posted by Trapped

1. What does Lee/ministry teach?
2. What does the Bible actually say? (or, does the Bible actually say that?)
Sorry, but Witness Lee or anyone may say whatever they want to say, but if Scripture doesn't also say it, they are wrong!

Originally Posted by Trapped

The problem is that Lee was not a good Bible teacher, he had no one to correct him, and he taught lots of things wrong. Where the Bible shows distinctions, Lee dragged them together and mushed them into one. He should not have done that.

Originally Posted by UntoHim

Then just when one wouldn't think that things could get worse, Witness Lee taught that "Because the Father, the Son, and the Spirit are all one with the Body of Christ, we may say that the Triune God is now the 'four-in-one God'." This is rank heresy. Nowhere did the Lord Jesus or the Scripture writing apostles even faintly imply that the Body of Christ is to be considered part of, or equal to, the Trinity.

Originally Posted by aron

Where did Paul present us with God processed in His economy? If Paul didn't say this, then why should we?

Originally Posted by Nell

In fact, we don't even have teachings and practices. We just read the Bible, as we are commanded to do, and are blessed by the Holy Spirit...or not.

And now the coup de gras:

Originally Posted by Ohio

Why should we focus on that which is not in the Bible and miss that which is? Isn't the Bible enough? Should we not stick to our common faith?

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