The LCS Factor

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Matt

Timotheist,

What is idolatry? Just looking for your definition to interpret your meaning.

If it were just a cultural thing, then the Church in Taiwan would not have split over the issues related to authority/submission. Sorry, that argument doesn't fly. It goes beyond a general cultural issue as the evidence indicates.

By the way, a number of people in our culture did embrace the methods of Lee, but not a large number relative to the whole population. Matt

P.S. Thanks for all the credit on this forum and the other one. Such a generalization is pretty nasty as well, but you've gotten to say your piece. Care to establish your sweeping indictment with more facts. At least I try to establish what I am saying with information and not just make the broad generalizations. In addition, I attempt to point it topically and not personally (I know I haven't always succeeded on this second point). I know others may not agree with me, but I don't turn and start playing dirty pool like you just did.

Brother Matt,

When like-minded observers like Timotheist, who come back to the forum with a fresh perspective, and are startled with what they view as an "obsession" in your posts, then shouldn't you consider his point of view? Observations are what they are, even if they are not loaded with "information."

Many have made valid and helpful comments about the "culture factor," and you dismiss Timotheist's comments here categorically. How do you know that "issues related to authority / submission" were not very much on the hearts on the Taiwan saints during the 50's and 60's? To entirely make that conflict a matter of "church ground" is not realistic. Others have written that the saints in Taiwan were very upset over the sale of church property to pay off personal debts. Usually "trigger points" are not the "whole point," conflicts such as that one are complicated indeed.

What also troubles me are your continued comments that you are being faithful to God and His word, as if no other dissenting poster is. You make comments that we are not being "honest" with the facts, and afraid of the "light shining" in dark or grey areas, as if you alone are in the light, are honest with our history, approach God in the light, and are faithful to speak honestly.

I have written before that your posts not only condemn all LC'ers, but also all of God's people, whether wheat or tares, lukewarm or diligent, serving or visiting, none is excluded. You have inferred that since "all Israel is idolatrous," then all the church must be also. Nothing one can say has altered your views one bit. I see warnings in the N.T. but no such views as yours. For you to say object to Timotheist's "sweeping indictments and broad generalizations," is exactly what I have tried to do with some of your posts.

Hoping for peace in Christ Jesus.