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Originally Posted by Trapped

The same body of people that Jesus was referring to in Matthew 18 when he said "tell it to the church", even though there wasn't the church when He said it. There is no need to assume Jesus was speaking concerning an already existing thing as opposed to it being future instruction.

No, I was wrong. By the time Matthew was written Paul had founded many churches. The author knowing that, slipped that take it to the church thing in.

Originally Posted by Trapped

In Matthew 16 Jesus had just told Peter that He would build His church. That church.

Or those churches.

Originally Posted by Trapped

The "evil person" in the other verse I quoted can simply be a pagan or idol worshiper or unrighteous Roman (I have a vague recollection from somewhere that Romans could simply point to someone and make them carry their belongings for them.....don't quote me on that though).

I think I ran across that as well.