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Old 11-15-2020, 06:04 PM   #1
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There's no contradiction in this particular case.

The "if he repents" verses are about interactions among believers. The "turn the other cheek" is regarding unbelievers.

Matthew 5:39
But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also.

The "evil person" is not a believer, but an unbeliever. There are different requirements for believers versus unbelievers, and for interacting with believers versus unbelievers.

There is no case in the church where believers are told to be okay with unrepentant sin of another believer, but instead repeatedly say to rebuke and confront and address it. The only exception is 1 Corinthians 6 but that is regarding going as far as lawsuits, and it does not in any way mean that the Matthew 18 steps of confronting your brother, telling another, telling the church, and then treating them as tax collectors if they don't repent do not apply.
Can I ask, believers in what? There wasn't a church at that point. There were synagogues. So believers in the Septuagint? I'm confused by believers in what?
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Old 11-15-2020, 06:45 PM   #2
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Can I ask, believers in what? There wasn't a church at that point. There were synagogues. So believers in the Septuagint? I'm confused by believers in what?
The same body of people that Jesus was referring to in Matthew 18 when he said "tell it to the church", even though there wasn't the church when He said it. There is no need to assume Jesus was speaking concerning an already existing thing as opposed to it being future instruction.

In Matthew 16 Jesus had just told Peter that He would build His church. That church.

The "evil person" in the other verse I quoted can simply be a pagan or idol worshiper or unrighteous Roman (I have a vague recollection from somewhere that Romans could simply point to someone and make them carry their belongings for them.....don't quote me on that though).
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Old 11-15-2020, 08:29 PM   #3
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The same body of people that Jesus was referring to in Matthew 18 when he said "tell it to the church", even though there wasn't the church when He said it. There is no need to assume Jesus was speaking concerning an already existing thing as opposed to it being future instruction.
No, I was wrong. By the time Matthew was written Paul had founded many churches. The author knowing that, slipped that take it to the church thing in.

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In Matthew 16 Jesus had just told Peter that He would build His church. That church.
Or those churches.

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The "evil person" in the other verse I quoted can simply be a pagan or idol worshiper or unrighteous Roman (I have a vague recollection from somewhere that Romans could simply point to someone and make them carry their belongings for them.....don't quote me on that though).
I think I ran across that as well.
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