How is the Virus Affecting You?

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Boxjobox

Three cheers for John MacArthur who is standing up and proclaiming that the Governor of my state, California, has no right to dictate, to control the church.
Gov. Newsom would have the church and church practices under state control. Mr. MacArthur rightly proclaims that under the constitution, the state has NO right to dictate church practices.
Christian Lives Matter, I’m so glad a church leader finally stood up and says Newsom, get your knee off our necks! I would that all of Gods people were so clear and bold.

No one has the right to be a Typhoid Mary, Christian or not. And the governor has the constitutional right to protect his citizens.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by awareness

No one has the right to be a Typhoid Mary, Christian or not. And the governor has the constitutional right to protect his citizens.

Awareness, this virus has had a serious effect on your thinking.

Constitutional rights are legislated by an elected body, not mandated by tyrranical governors.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Awareness, this virus has had a serious effect on your thinking.

Constitutional rights are legislated by an elected body, not mandated by tyrranical governors.

Well it's had the same affect on Trump defender Alan Dershowitz, who made the claim that governors have a constitutional right.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by awareness

Well it's had the same affect on Trump defender Alan Dershowitz, who made the claim that governors have a constitutional right.

So Dershowitz "trumps" the constitution?

The real question is whether Dershowitz was on Epstein's island and private jet.

[Sons to Glory!]

Our leading ones just sent out an email with a link to John MacArthur, telling what his group's stance is regarding the California governor's edict for churches not to meet. The elders said what John stated is fairly representative of their thoughts as well.

Interview with John MacArthur regarding California Church Closing Edict

[Boxjobox]

Originally Posted by Sons to Glory!

Our leading ones just sent out an email with a link to John MacArthur, telling what his group's stance is regarding the California governor's edict for churches not to meet. The elders said what John stated is fairly representative of their thoughts as well.

Interview with John MacArthur regarding California Church Closing Edict

Yes, but you live in Arizona- California is a whole different beast. I know a number of people, who in the last couple of years have moved to Arizona because they could no longer tolerate results of bad Ca. governance.
The church is the gathering together of the called out ones. The constitution guarantees our freedom of religion- it was one of the freedoms our founders wanted to protect. Now the gov. of CA is saying we do not have the right to gather. It seems to me that all Christians in CA should be loudly protesting this infringement. It is the job of government to protect those rights, not to curtail them. There is a protest gathering here in San Diego this evening; I for one plan to attend.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Boxjobox

Yes, but you live in Arizona- California is a whole different beast. I know a number of people, who in the last couple of years have moved to Arizona because they could no longer tolerate results of bad Ca. governance.
The church is the gathering together of the called out ones. The constitution guarantees our freedom of religion- it was one of the freedoms our founders wanted to protect. Now the gov. of CA is saying we do not have the right to gather. It seems to me that all Christians in CA should be loudly protesting this infringement. It is the job of government to protect those rights, not to curtail them. There is a protest gathering here in San Diego this evening; I for one plan to attend.

People whine about 2-Party "gridlocks," but California is proof that a single Party wielding power will destroy itself.

I have always thought that "gridlock" was a great thing, since politicians doing nothing is better than politicians doing bad things.

The time will come when Christians will be forced to honor Acts 5.29 over Romans 13.1. The Lord will use this to separate the "sheep" from the "goats."

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Ohio

The real question is whether Dershowitz was on Epstein's island and private jet.

Along with him, Trump, Clinton, and Andrew ... and a host of high powered influential's, unnamed of course ... who prolly had Epstein killed.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by awareness

Along with him, Trump, Clinton, and Andrew ... and a host of high powered influential's, unnamed of course ... who prolly had Epstein killed.

No evidence or witnesses have placed Trump on Epstein's island, homes, or jets. There is only a picture of Trump, Melania, Epstein, and Maxwell together at a party. I'm sure there are hundreds (thousands?) of NYC figures in pics with Epstein before his initial arrest.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Ohio

No evidence or witnesses have placed Trump on Epstein's island, homes, or jets. There is only a picture of Trump, Melania, Epstein, and Maxwell together at a party. I'm sure there are hundreds (thousands?) of NYC figures in pics with Epstein before his initial arrest.

Oh no! Don't touch Ohio's idol! Like Lee, his replacement Trump, even when he's wrong he's right.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Ohio

So Dershowitz "trumps" the constitution?

Like Ohio, with his gross malignant religious bias, is a higher authority on the constitution than Dershowitz.

[Boxjobox]

Originally Posted by awareness

No one has the right to be a Typhoid Mary, Christian or not. And the governor has the constitutional right to protect his citizens.

We live in a nation with constitutional rights. Free informed people have the right to make informed personal choices on how to conduct their lives.
COVID-19 is not typhoid. A 2 week stay at home to get a handle on the situation was understandable. A 4 month suspension of constitutional rights is unacceptable. Newsom should be recalled- he does not know how to govern in a constitutional society.