Predators in the church

[awareness]

Originally Posted by aron

Bringing this forward in light of the recent discussion on the Jo Casteel FB page. Very important that those without voices (and there were/are many) are allowed to speak.

Yes they should be allowed to speak. They should be allowed to speak to wake up parents and followers so devoted to the movement that they essentially turn a blind eye to what's going on in their midst.

But this is not only a problem in the LC. It's also a problem in all Christian groups and assemblies. The difference being that the LC claims to be the one true church of Christ, and the up to date movement of God on the earth.

For those reasons all voices revealing the lies of those claims have to be silenced by the powers in the LC, and the blind sycophants feigning ignorance.

Amen to Jo Casteel for allowing them a forum for their voices to be heard, exposing the LC movement as no different than all the other Christian groups they continually condemn as fallen. Isn't it about time, and long overdue?

And it's time that any incidents of this occurring from here on be reported to the authorities.

[countmeworthy]

Originally Posted by awareness

Amen to Jo Casteel for allowing them a forum for their voices to be heard, exposing the LC movement as no different than all the other Christian groups they continually condemn as fallen. Isn't it about time, and long overdue?

And it's time that any incidents of this occurring from here on be reported to the authorities.

I absolutely agree the religious predators especially from the LSM/LR since this is what this forum is focused on SHOULD be reported asap to the police authorities. For a young vulnerable person it would be difficult perhaps for those are the people predators go for: weak, vulnerable, shy.

This forum is a great start for them to come forward without fear.

May God grant them the courage, strength and protection they need to bring down these shameful and cowardly predators who pretend to be ambassadors of Christ when they are in actuality ambassadors of the devil himself.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Ohio

There has always been a consensus among former members that leaving the LC with your faith in Jesus intact is much preferred for all those who exit.

But it doesn't fix problems for those mentally disturbed by the mind control, and killing of the mind, in the LC, or those that have suffered sexual assault while in the LC.

[Cal]

Originally Posted by awareness

But it doesn't fix problems for those mentally disturbed by the mind control, and killing of the mind, in the LC, or those that have suffered sexual assault while in the LC.

Au contraire.

In my experience the ONLY thing that fixed me was the healing power of the Holy Spirit, and an understanding of what the word of God really means in regards to LR deceptions.

Learned, Spirit-inspired Christian counseling is fine. Secular psychology by itself can help, but only in the way a crutch can help. It cannot solve the underlying fundamental problem of spiritual deception and injury.

Only Jehovah Rapha can do that. God the Healer. Believe Him, receive Him.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Igzy

Au contraire.

In my experience the ONLY thing that fixed me was the healing power of the Holy Spirit, and an understanding of what the word of God really means in regards to LR deceptions.

Learned, Spirit-inspired Christian counseling is fine. Secular psychology by itself can help, but only in the way a crutch can help. It cannot solve the underlying fundamental problem of spiritual deception and injury.

Only Jehovah Rapha can do that. God the Healer. Believe Him, receive Him.

I'm very happy for you Igzy. And thanks for your proclamations.

But I know two saints that's been calling on the lord for decades, pray-reading, attending conferences, and one, elder's meetings, that are deep in the closet gays, that haven't been "healed."

And I knew a brother in the c. in Miami who was told the the LC, and Jesus, couldn't cure his alcoholism, and was told to go to AA ... where even "your higher power" couldn't cure him.

But I'm glad the lord saved you. You must be special, or marked out for a purpose.

But, apparently, not everyone is.

[Cal]

Originally Posted by awareness

I'm very happy for you Igzy. And thanks for your proclamations.

But I know two saints that's been calling on the lord for decades, pray-reading, attending conferences, and one, elder's meetings, that are deep in the closet gays, that haven't been "healed."

And I knew a brother in the c. in Miami who was told the the LC, and Jesus, couldn't cure his alcoholism, and was told to go to AA ... where even "your higher power" couldn't cure him.

But I'm glad the lord saved you. You must be special, or marked out for a purpose.

But, apparently, not everyone is.

Your unbelief is a lie and stronghold of the devil.

Sorry, Harold. It's just a fact. And one day you will look me in the eye and say, "You were right."

Besides, if psychology can heal, then that is God's doing, because he made everything. Water cannot rise above its own level. No one can do better than God could have.

God may tell you to go to a doctor or psychologist. But neither can do anything God didn't empower them to do. So everything is from him.

But we are talking about not just physical or psychological healing, but spiritual healing. By definition only God can do that.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Igzy

Your unbelief is a lie and stronghold of the devil.

Sorry, Harold. It's just a fact. And one day you will look me in the eye and say, "You were right."

Besides, if psychology can heal, then that is God's doing, because he made everything. Water cannot rise above its own level. No one can do better than God could have. So really you are just talking nonsense.

You really do not know what you are talking about.

I also have similar stories among my extended Southern Baptist church family members.

And how many dynamic high powered mega-church pastors have we've seen fall?

This has nothing to do with "my unbelief." It has to do with observations facts. Does it turn me off to Jesus? NO! In fact, I've help them get thru it.

But telling them to just call on the name of Jesus is not the answer. It certainly doesn't help the predators in the LC.