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Old 09-13-2018, 04:14 PM   #11
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Default Re: Poor poor Christianity?

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Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah View Post
Your point is that "we eat the crucified savior" when we eat the Lord's supper?
Yes, and that it's a carryover from the early practice of sacrificing a human to propitiate a deity, and then eating the flesh and blood of the sacrificed.

But it's become more civilized, as now, to Christians, it's is symbolic, and not literal ; exempting transubstantiation that says it is the literal flesh and blood of Jesus. I guess we haven't become completely civilized.

As witnessed by animal sacrifice ; a improved barbarism. The Hebrews sacrificed animals as a propitiation for sin, as a substitutionary atonement.

Really? Their Torah tells that the sacrifice was a pleasing aroma, "a sweet savour unto the LORD." Really? Was it like getting a whiff a neighbors' BBQ? God smells? Really? Is He human, even before "becoming human?" Don't get me going.

If this Red Heifer -- referenced in the hermeneutic thread -- really does mean the building of the 3rd temple, the Jews will resume animal sacrifice. Which means they are no more civilized than stone and bronze age peoples.

It's obviously an ancient superstition ; that was in very common currency in the 1st century (the Iron age). Which is why it was attributed to Jesus. The need for a sacrifice was in the zeitgeist back then. That Jesus was a sacrifice would have been readily acceptable, and even better, a once and for all sacrifice ; another improvement ... of sorts (except the devil is in the details).

But c'mon? Haven't we outgrown such silliness? Surely the God of the universe wouldn't be so uncivilized. Oh, but, I forgot. The God of the Hebrews has a history of uncivilized actions. No wonder they had to propitiate their God ... out of fear.

Which at bottom is why we still eat Jesus ; a human sacrifice ; like God needs a death of something, of not just critters, but even His son, to forgive sins. That's a mean God, not a "God is love" God. That God earns fear, and the need for propitiation by scared humans. Not unless to God, torture and beastliness is love.

Who knows? The heavenly lexicon may have different meanings to our earthly one. I certainly don't know. I'm just concerned about God. I don't like "Him" depicted as a beast.
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