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Old 06-25-2018, 03:29 PM   #11
zeek
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Default Re: Poor poor Christianity?

It seems we're back to the christology question which on the surface seems to digress from the OP topic, but really doesn't. How can we determine where Christianity went wrong, if indeed it did, without first determining who Jesus was and what he was really like? Take Ohio's point about Jesus's knowledge level. Some gospel texts seem to indicate that Jesus shared normal human limitations in his knowledge of the affairs of life. Other gospels attribute extraordinary and even superhuman knowledge to him. Take one story told in the three synoptic gospels, for instance:
Mark 5:30-33
30 And Jesus, immediately knowing in Himself that power had gone out of Him, turned around in the crowd and said, “Who touched My clothes?” 31 But His disciples said to Him, “You see the multitude thronging You, and You say, ‘Who touched Me?’ ” 32 And He looked around to see her who had done this thing. 33 But the woman, fearing and trembling, knowing what had happened to her, came and fell down before Him and told Him the whole truth.

Luke 8:45-47
45 And Jesus said, “Who touched Me?” When all denied it, Peter and those with him said, “Master, the multitudes throng and press You, and You say, ‘Who touched Me?’ ” 46 But Jesus said, “Somebody touched Me, for I perceived power going out from Me.” 47 Now when the woman saw that she was not hidden, she came trembling; and falling down before Him, she declared to Him in the presence of all the people the reason she had touched Him and how she was healed immediately.

Matthew 9:20-22
20 And suddenly, a woman who had a flow of blood for twelve years came from behind and touched the hem of His garment. 21 For she said to herself, “If only I may touch His garment, I shall be made well.” 22 But Jesus turned around, and when He saw her He said, “Be of good cheer, daughter; your faith has made you well.” And the woman was made well from that hour.
In Mark Jesus asks who touched hm and looks around for her. In Luke he asks who touched hm but doesn't look around. In Matthew, Jesus neither needs to ask nor look around for the toucher. He KNOWS what has happened. Is this not evidence of a move from a lower to a higher Christology in terms of Jesus' knowledge level?
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