Doug Krieger testimony

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Originally Posted by Terry

I'm curious, what happened in Abq? My family was there summer 73-to end of 75. I was only 6-8 years old at the time.

I don't know. I'll ask my buddy regarding details.

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Here what my local person had to say about Albuquerque:

I don't know anything about what happened in Abq in '75. We got back there in late Feb. early March. I know the Texas "bros", had been there, which I saw had established Abq in Living Stream establishment. Fully "ensconced" there in.

I am having such a hard time to see such awful depraved doings by WL and company. All the back stabbing, etc. [My wife] and I were talking about it, we were both so Naive, had no idea of the "depths of Satan". I just knew the "hero" worship of WL was not of God, so how could I be a part of it?! No telling what I would have done, had I known the "depths of Satan" going on. Texas guys were saying: "We will follow WL off a cliff," and I said "Not me"!

Aren't you glad we are so gone gone gone?

[JJ]

Doug Krieger spoke and sold books at a conference in Sacramento early this year involving Henry Hon and several other Christian speakers. Here is a link to his authors page at Amazon. https://www.amazon.com/default/e/B00...KindleDbs=true

He also spoke at a conference in Denver and was videod https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cc-pULVULhs
This is just as an update on his current status, not a recommendation to read or not (I haven’t bought or read his books nor heard enough of his speaking to form a recommendation.

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Originally Posted by JJ

Doug Krieger spoke and sold books at a conference in Sacramento early this year involving Henry Hon and several other Christian speakers. Here is a link to his authors page at Amazon. https://www.amazon.com/default/e/B00...KindleDbs=true

He also spoke at a conference in Denver and was videod https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cc-pULVULhs
This is just as an update on his current status, not a recommendation to read or not (I haven’t bought or read his books nor heard enough of his speaking to form a recommendation.

Wow - Henry Hon too?! I thought a lot of Henry and was around him more than I was Doug (since Doug so quickly got the boot after I came on the scene).

I looked at some of Doug's writings and other Internet things. Appears like he's very big on eschatology and trying to decipher biblical numbers. For me, I've lost my appetite for all the numbers. In the end, a bunch of knowledge like mostly produces a fearful response, and not a loving knowing of Christ Himself. I know several people who follow this sort of thing and my opinion is that it's one big snorkeling in the weeds/rabbit hole.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Sons to Glory!

I know several people who follow this sort of thing and my opinion is that it's one big snorkeling in the weeds/rabbit hole.

I went down his Tribnet 7000 Facebook rabbit hole for some time. It's fun down there, but ya haveta put up with a lot of funny characters ... and predictions of the end of the world, whenever the moon does something out of the ordinary, or some such ... or something aligns with the Hebrew calendar, specially holy days. Doug can work out the in-depth math until yer brain blows a 50 amp fuse. But it never works out in reality, it never comes to pass.

If only we could blow up the temple mount. Then we'd see Bible prophecy finally come to pass. That moon just won't do the trick.

[aron]

Stg, I finally figured out your moniker, remembering the ditty.

"Oh, the children of the Lord have a wondrous song to sing, for the the Lord will on that day many sons to glory bring."

I noted your friend's description of Doug as the "golden boy". According to his own testimony Doug brought in many, and in this he reminds me of two other LC "Timothys" who were similarly used then discarded. John I and Max R. Both were prominent in the work at one point, and lauded by WL as paragons of the recovery spirit.

Also liked the phrase, "as elated as an idiot at a street carnival". It aptly describes the sensory overload and feelings that follow. Shouting, chanting, yelling, arm-waving and fist-pumping, rocking back and forth, hopping up and down. Can you pass on this comment to your friend and either you or he comment further on the meeting atmosphere? I think "Berzerkely" may be telling us something.

WN was evidently affected by the "charismania" bug when he visited Elizabeth Fischbacher, who also travelled with him to England and transcribed his talks into English for CFP where his work began to circulate in the west. And of course WL followed suit, deliberately cultivating it to great effect.

[awareness]

Hey Doug's okay. I gave him some rough and tumble on Tribnet 7000, and he took it with grace. Just every now and then we jumped into the ring. Even then it was all in fun.

I only have interest in him at all because he falsely claimed that he started the c. in Santa Cruz, and I know better. Why lie about such a thing?

Turns out that Golden Boy has quite an ego, that he likes to puff up from time to time. And to him his Bible interpretation is unassailable. If you question it, you just might not be a friend ever again. He might have gotten that from Witness Lee. Bird's of a feather kinda thing.

[aron]

Originally Posted by awareness

He he falsely claimed that he started the c. in Santa Cruz, and I know better. Why lie about such a thing? Turns out that Golden Boy has quite an ego, that he likes to puff up from time to time.

Hard to miss the sense of self-aggrandizement in his account. But the part where he asked WL about the Antioch church controlling "all of them" I found shocking, actually; if WL did reply in the affirmative as DK alleges. What a reversal from the idea of localism! And WN also held this idea forth - in the FTOTCL? Brazen, if so.

Too ironic as Antioch is where Paul opposed those from James over the gentile issue, if Antioch then became the model for gentile control. That part where the two Dougs challenged WL over Nee's writing is the best part of the story (assuming it's corroborated).

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Originally Posted by aron

Stg, I finally figured out your moniker, remembering the ditty.

"Oh, the children of the Lord have a wondrous song to sing, for the the Lord will on that day many sons to glory bring."

I noted your friend's description of Doug as the "golden boy". According to his own testimony Doug brought in many, and in this he reminds me of two other LC "Timothys" who were similarly used then discarded. John I and Max R. Both were prominent in the work at one point, and lauded by WL as paragons of the recovery spirit.

Also liked the phrase, "as elated as an idiot at a street carnival". It aptly describes the sensory overload and feelings that follow. Shouting, chanting, yelling, arm-waving and fist-pumping, rocking back and forth, hopping up and down. Can you pass on this comment to your friend and either you or he comment further on the meeting atmosphere? I think "Berzerkely" may be telling us something.

WN was evidently affected by the "charismania" bug when he visited Elizabeth Fischbacher, who also travelled with him to England and transcribed his talks into English for CFP where his work began to circulate in the west. And of course WL followed suit, deliberately cultivating it to great effect.

Sorry, bro, but I saw him at breakfast this morning and he sent me an email - he simply said, "enough all ready." I guess he is done talking about Doug K. (He certainly is one of the more colorful brothers among us these days, and I often get a kick out of many of his sayings!

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Originally Posted by aron

Stg, I finally figured out your moniker, remembering the ditty.

"Oh, the children of the Lord have a wondrous song to sing, for the the Lord will on that day many sons to glory bring."

Oh, yes, I do remember that song! I actually was thinking of Hebrews 2:10 (which the song quotes).