If you were in Scottsdale would you take the Table..

leastofthese · 06-25-2018, 03:41 PM

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However, taking the name of the church in ..... alone is not meaningful as there is more to oneness than the name. Not taking the name is meaningful as it indicates meeting on a different ground. Yet, I have not followed Brother Bill since he left the Lord's recovery so frankly I do not know on what ground he established the churches under his direction.

Per StG - The church is not dedicated to the reading of Witness Lee. So I don't think they'd be considered acceptable for members of the LSM churches. Am I getting that wrong?

Sons to Glory! · 06-25-2018, 03:58 PM

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Per StG - The church is not dedicated to the reading of Witness Lee. So I don't think they'd be considered acceptable for members of the LSM churches. Am I getting that wrong?

Yes, you can pretty much read whoever author you want here - hopefully it's edifying and centered on Christ!

So does that exclude us in Scottsdale?

Drake · 06-25-2018, 04:24 PM

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Yes, you can pretty much read whoever author you want here - hopefully it's edifying and centered on Christ!

So does that exclude us in Scottsdale?

Nope.

LofT is reading my post through the filter of his worldview.

Drake

Sons to Glory! · 06-25-2018, 04:54 PM

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Nope.

LofT is reading my post through the filter of his worldview.

Drake

Thanks! So perhaps it's not a dogmatic thing with those in TLR. So the brother I wrote of earlier who was in TLR elsewhere and wouldn't take the table here because he said it would "violate the oneness" . . . Are you saying it's a matter of individual conscience and not a specific LC teaching?

(and again we have nothing formal to do with the LC or the authority thereof - unless you count being one in Spirit . . .)

Drake · 06-25-2018, 08:27 PM

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Thanks! So perhaps it's not a dogmatic thing with those in TLR. So the brother I wrote of earlier who was in TLR elsewhere and wouldn't take the table here because he said it would "violate the oneness" . . . Are you saying it's a matter of individual conscience and not a specific LC teaching?

(and again we have nothing formal to do with the LC or the authority thereof - unless you count being one in Spirit . . .)

STG,

Paul indicated we should consider and examine when partaking the table. If someone does not want to then you should receive him anyway. He has his reasons.

Brother Lee taught that whenever we go someplace we should blend in and to the extent afforded we should do as they do. If they speak in tongues learn to speak in tongues. If they roll on the floor, learn to roll on the floor.

Drake

Ohio · 06-26-2018, 07:45 AM

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STG,

Paul indicated we should consider and examine when partaking the table. If someone does not want to then you should receive him anyway. He has his reasons.

Brother Lee taught that whenever we go someplace we should blend in and to the extent afforded we should do as they do. If they speak in tongues learn to speak in tongues. If they roll on the floor, learn to roll on the floor.

Drake

W. Lee may have taught this years ago, but neither he nor his Blendeds ever practiced it.

leastofthese · 06-25-2018, 05:16 PM

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Nope.

LofT is reading my post through the filter of his worldview.

Drake

Not my worldview, but my experience. Each “Local Church” in the “oneness” I’ve visited or know of first hand have followed the writings of Witness Lee, no doubt about that. I could go take a picture of the literature in the church book room, their Bibles , and the hymn books as my proof (or would that still be in my filter?)

Drake, since I’m so out of whack here, please set me straight. What is a locality that doesn’t dedicate their church to the writings of Witness Lee? I don’t need an exhaustive list, one name is fine.

**edits for mistypes on new iPhone

Drake · 06-25-2018, 08:35 PM

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Not my worldview, but my experience. Each “Local Church” in the “oneness” I’ve visited or know of first hand have followed the writings of Witness Lee, no doubt about that. I could go take a picture of the literature in the church book room, their Bibles , and the hymn books as my proof (or would that still be in my filter?)

Drake, since I’m so out of whack here, please set me straight. What is a locality that doesn’t dedicate their church to the writings of Witness Lee? I don’t need an exhaustive list, one name is fine.

**edits for mistypes on new iPhone

The out of whack part is the ministry is for the churches NOT that a church dedicated to the writings of Witness Lee. So, not one but all of them that I know of or ever been a part of.

Drake

Trapped · 06-25-2018, 10:32 PM

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The out of whack part is the ministry is for the churches NOT that a church dedicated to the writings of Witness Lee. So, not one but all of them that I know of or ever been a part of.

Drake

Yes, the ministry should be for the churches.

What is a locality in which Witness Lee (and Nee)'s books are NOT the primary ones read from, referenced, or sold?

Whether it be The Holy Word for Morning Revival, another ministry book by Lee/Nee, or the Recovery Version of the Bible (translated and footnoted by Lee)?

Drake · 06-26-2018, 06:08 AM

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Yes, the ministry should be for the churches.

What is a locality in which Witness Lee (and Nee)'s books are NOT the primary ones read from, referenced, or sold?

Whether it be The Holy Word for Morning Revival, another ministry book by Lee/Nee, or the Recovery Version of the Bible (translated and footnoted by Lee)?

Trapped,

If none, how does that unprove the ministry is for the churches?

Drake

leastofthese · 06-26-2018, 05:05 AM

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The out of whack part is the ministry is for the churches NOT that a church dedicated to the writings of Witness Lee. So, not one but all of them that I know of or ever been a part of.

Drake

So all the churches in the “oneness” are dedicated to the work of Witness Lee, but for the churches - not for the sake of Witness Lee?

Drake · 06-26-2018, 05:58 AM

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So all the churches in the “oneness” are dedicated to the work of Witness Lee, but for the churches - not for the sake of Witness Lee?

That’s incoherent.

Not interested in unraveling your knotted logic.

Thanks
Drake

Ohio · 06-26-2018, 07:55 AM

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The out of whack part is the ministry is for the churches NOT that a church dedicated to the writings of Witness Lee.

Drake

This cutesy saying is designed to disarm the conscience of the saints. It has no more validity your saying that you become god.

Furthermore, the false and distorted "oneness" in the LCM is a guise of divisiveness. They use their ministry and claims of oneness to divide and destroy LC's.

Ohio · 06-26-2018, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by leastofthese

Not my worldview, but my experience. Each “Local Church” in the “oneness” I’ve visited or know of first hand have followed the writings of Witness Lee, no doubt about that. I could go take a picture of the literature in the church book room, their Bibles , and the hymn books as my proof (or would that still be in my filter?)

Drake, since I’m so out of whack here, please set me straight. What is a locality that doesn’t dedicate their church to the writings of Witness Lee? I don’t need an exhaustive list, one name is fine.

**edits for mistypes on new iPhone

Midwest LC's were all undermined by LSM operatives for NOT using the writings of W. Lee. Not using Lee's writings is justification for lawsuits.

Not my worldview, just my experience.