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Old 06-02-2018, 05:35 AM   #11
ZNPaaneah
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Default Re: Poor poor Christianity?

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Jesus told the people in Jerusalem that when the armies surrounded Jerusalem the son of man would appear in the clouds so they should look up. Jerusalem was destroyed as you say but when they looked up the son of man did not appear in the clouds. As a result there was a shift in the eschatology away from the return of Jesus to establish his kingdom to the church on earth as an enduring institution and the destination of heaven for the individual believer at the end of life. This shift is already evident in the Gospel of John which de-emphasizes the Apocalypse in favor of a realized eschatology.
30and then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31And he shall send forth his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

This is in Matt 24, at the end of the chapter, after the following things:

1. Temple is destroyed, not one stone left upon another.
2. Many false Christ’s coming in Jesus name
3. Wars and rumors of war, nation rise against nation, Kingdom against kingdom
4. Famines and earthquakes in diverse places
5. Delivered up and persecuted and “hated of all nations”. You cannot claim that Israel’s persecution of Peter, Paul and the apostles fulfills “hated of all nations”.
6. Many false prophets shall arise
7. Finally, “when you see the abomination of desolation, which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the Holy Place” — so not only is the temple completely destroyed it must also be completely rebuilt.
8. That sun shall be darkened
9. The stars shall fall from heaven

So how could anyone teach that the book of Matthew taught Jesus prophesied that His second coming would take place during the lifetime of the apostles?

Instead Jesus said many false prophets and many false Christ's would come teaching stuff to confuse the elect.
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