Poor poor Christianity?

[awareness]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

I think it is a fundamental factor in the growth and maturation of the church.

I think that you are focused on the noise and pomp and missing the masterpiece of God which has yet to be unveiled. It is like looking at some preacher asking for a $54 million dollar jet to "preach the gospel" and thinking that this behavior somehow speaks negatively about what God and Christ are doing. It is simply the black background which will make the revelation of the church all that more glorious.

The church is old with gray hair and if not mature yet isn't ever gonna be.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by awareness

The church is old with gray hair and if not mature yet isn't ever gonna be.

I guess it has been hidden from you.

I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou didst hide these things from the wise and understanding, and didst reveal them unto babes: 26 yea, Father, for so it was well-pleasing in thy sight. 27 All things have been delivered unto me of my Father: and no one knoweth the Son, save the Father; neither doth any know the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son willeth to reveal him.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

I guess it has been hidden from you.

I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou didst hide these things from the wise and understanding, and didst reveal them unto babes: 26 yea, Father, for so it was well-pleasing in thy sight. 27 All things have been delivered unto me of my Father: and no one knoweth the Son, save the Father; neither doth any know the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son willeth to reveal him.

"no one knoweth the Son, save the Father, neither doth any know the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son willeth to reveal him"

Seems it's not up to me. Glad for you tho ... that you know the Father, that only the son knows ... so you know the Father like the son knows. Glad for you.