LC Gibberish

[Freedom]

Originally Posted by HERn

Was this a real banner or did someone make it up?

It's fake.

But then again it's all fake. WL made it all up as he saw fit. It has no real meaning, and anyone attempting to decipher that kind of nonsense will drive themselves crazy.

Someone could probably write a computer program the could generate LSM outlines. Just insert words like intrinsic, economy, kernel or consummation every so often and you've got yourself an LSM outline. Oh and don't forget the random scripture references that nothing to do with the outline points.

[HERn]

Originally Posted by Freedom

It's fake.

But then again it's all fake. WL made it all up as he saw fit. It has no real meaning, and anyone attempting to decipher that kind of nonsense will drive themselves crazy.

Someone could probably write a computer program the could generate LSM outlines. Just insert words like intrinsic, economy, kernel or consummation every so often and you've got yourself an LSM outline. Oh and don't forget the random scripture references that nothing to do with the outline points.

Thanks Freedom. Last year or so I looked at a recent LSM outline and compared what was written to the cited bible verses and was amazed at the incongruity. I remember as an LC member paying more attention to the outline than to the content of the bible verses.

[TLFisher]

Originally Posted by HERn

Thanks Freedom. Last year or so I looked at a recent LSM outline and compared what was written to the cited bible verses and was amazed at the incongruity. I remember as an LC member paying more attention to the outline than to the content of the bible verses.

Of course. I wouldn't be surprised if it was the outline that was prayread instead of the bible verses.

[JJ]

Originally Posted by Freedom

It's fake.

But then again it's all fake. WL made it all up as he saw fit. It has no real meaning, and anyone attempting to decipher that kind of nonsense will drive themselves crazy.

Someone could probably write a computer program the could generate LSM outlines. Just insert words like intrinsic, economy, kernel or consummation every so often and you've got yourself an LSM outline. Oh and don't forget the random scripture references that nothing to do with the outline points.

Silly me. I was one of those who thought the lingo was real, and that it was WL's attempt to describe what is in the Bible to us. Initially I got into the quoted verses and thought I saw what WL was talking about. But, after years and years of getting into the Bible book we were "life studying" or "Chrystalization studying", reading the LSM Outline's cited verses, and separately actually reading the Bible daily and praying (which they harp on), I found the verses didn't always corroborate what was in the outline. In fact they often pointed out truth not talked about or even contradict a point occasionally. When I said so, the saints and elders would fall silent, then go back to verbatim reciting of "the points".

Very sad.

[OBW]

Originally Posted by JJ

. . . that it was WL's attempt to describe what is in the Bible to us. . . .

Actually, the Bible says it pretty well. If there is any problem with understanding he Bible, it is that on occasion there are places where having it said more clearly, not more cryptically, would be helpful.

And most of those banner-like, long phrases do not provide clarity. Instead they redefine and obfuscate.

All scripture is God-breathed and profitable for teaching. All Leeisms are Lee-breathed and profitable for Lee through the LSM.

[JJ]

Originally Posted by OBW

Actually, the Bible says it pretty well. If there is any problem with understanding he Bible, it is that on occasion there are places where having it said more clearly, not more cryptically, would be helpful.

And most of those banner-like, long phrases do not provide clarity. Instead they redefine and obfuscate.

All scripture is God-breathed and profitable for teaching. All Leeisms are Lee-breathed and profitable for Lee through the LSM.

Agreed. "Dispensing" is a good example (talk about an over-used WLism!). Why not use "fill" like the Bible does? Be filled in spirit, or be filled with the Spirit... straight forward. Exercise the spirit? Doesn't say that in my Bible, exercise thyself unto godliness is what it says. So, we end up with a whole new religion with part truth, part fantasy, part way of the nations (fallen human king dominating others while they exalt him and war with others).

[OBW]

This one has been dormant for almost a month but it was calling my name. (hear it calling yours?)

Originally Posted by JJ

Agreed. "Dispensing" is a good example (talk about an over-used WLism!). Why not use "fill" like the Bible does? Be filled in spirit, or be filled with the Spirit... straight forward. Exercise the spirit? Doesn't say that in my Bible, exercise thyself unto godliness is what it says. So, we end up with a whole new religion with part truth, part fantasy, part way of the nations (fallen human king dominating others while they exalt him and war with others).

You might be right. But I think that dispensing meant something other than just "fill." The impression that I got then (in less critical terms, but nonetheless what I got) was that is was like needing a week of complete multi-course meals at a high-end restaurant, but instead getting it doled out over much longer in depression era bread lines.

Dispensing was the reason that you couldn't do anything. It was never the reason you could, or even should. It was something that you always needed more of because it didn't just happen and you (erroneously under Lee's teachings) thought that you weren't supposed to try anyway. You were supposed to wait for the dispensing.

Oddly, one of Nee's books that made its way into wider Christian circles, Sit Walk Stand, quietly proposed the same error. It insisted that you needed to sit for a while until you were ready to stand.

But that is not the way Peter said it. He declared that we have what we need for life and godliness. I'm sure that Paul said it too, even if less directly. He really did do a lot of "straighten out and fly right" kind of writing. It is just that we are too prone to looking the spiritual facts that underpinned the reason we should do and ignore the do and just try to do the spiritual. Those were facts, not mountains to be climbed.

[OBW]

I have mentioned before that a relative of mine insisted several years ago that the way you say it is very important. Somehow the words used increase the "reality" of it and the "experience" of it.

I was unable to hide my disgust at such a ridiculous notion.

[stillseekingtruth]

Originally Posted by OBW

I have mentioned before that a relative of mine insisted several years ago that the way you say it is very important. Somehow the words used increase the "reality" of it and the "experience" of it.

I was unable to hide my disgust at such a ridiculous notion.

This seems to fit with the thought that we can speak somethimg into being as if we were really are becoming God haha

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Freedom

It's fake.

But then again it's all fake. WL made it all up as he saw fit. It has no real meaning, and anyone attempting to decipher that kind of nonsense will drive themselves crazy.

Someone could probably write a computer program the could generate LSM outlines. Just insert words like intrinsic, economy, kernel or consummation every so often and you've got yourself an LSM outline. Oh and don't forget the random scripture references that nothing to do with the outline points.

During the heyday of the new way, with our first door-knocking instruction to "turn left" to the next house, and preprogrammed introductions and responses, Titus Chu commented that LSM could have much better success by just hiring unsaved sales people to recruit door-to-door.

I think his words got back to headquarters.