Virgin Birth questioned: the research

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Originally Posted by Igzy

My faith is simple:

1. Something had to cause the universe. That's God.
   
2. I cannot dismiss Jesus. He was special. No other person I've observed compares to him.
3. I cannot dismiss the Bible. It is special. No other book or collection of writings I've seen compares to it.

Oddly, it may seem, but I feel very similar about all three.

Originally Posted by Igzy

All my other, more specific beliefs, flow from those three basic beliefs. Through my believing I've come to know an invisible but quite real Person, who has changed me and my life.

You've prolly caught me spouting how I love and can't live without my invisible friend.

Originally Posted by Igzy

You or zeek or others might scoff and laugh and say I'm logically unsound or whatever.

LoL ... you logically unsound? Now that's funny indeed.

Originally Posted by Igzy

And I'm not smart enough to imagine how it could be better.

And I consider you smarter than me. So I'm definitely not smart enough. That's why I'm always reading and learning. It's because I'm so stupid.

You speak of how Jesus is the fulfillment of OT prophecies. Well I'm certainly not smart enough to figure out how Mary wasn't impregnated by Joseph, yet Jesus is of the lineage of David.

Of course if God created nature He can certainly intervene into it ... and into history, by the way.

I guess I just wish God would be as involved in today's world, with humans, like I see in the Bible.

I think I've expressed that I'm a fan of mythology. I spot the same in them. And you prolly do to.

For example, concerning the virgin birth, you prolly don't embrace the myth, or Catholic doctrine, of the perpetual virginity of Mary. The truth is we humans just love to create myths.

And it looks to me that, since our earliest writers of the NT, Paul and Mark, don't mention something as important as the virgin birth, that is exactly what happened. The myth of the virgin birth was created by later writers ... or so it seems.

And where is our brother Timotheist? I certainly hope he's not like Andrew Kelly (concerning Lily Hsu's book) who came out here making highfalutin claims -- that he'd totally discredit her book -- and then dropped out before accomplishing his claims.

We need Tim to keep his two threads on track.