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Old 08-10-2012, 11:37 AM   #1
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Exactly! You got it right! I don't think many saints realize that Titus had been sowing seeds of distrust towards the BB among his own co-worker as much as a few years before WL passed away. In a sense, he brought the quarantine upon himself. He was testing the water to see how far he could go before the BB would do something against him openly. Titus wasn't scare. He had his own group of supporters.

By the way, all was much more obvious and known earlier among the Chinese speaking than among the English speaking. I knew all about his dislike of the Blendeds way BEFORE WL passed away.

In a sense, Titus totally deserved the quarantine. He wanted it. He knew it would come. He just didn't know when. He wanted to do his own work. He wanted to be separated from the Blendeds. I'm mentioning this because a lot of saints paint Titus as innocent. Poor Titus, he was quarantined! But they don't see that he spoke negatively against the BB behind their backs at least 10-20 years before the quarantine. He knew what he was doing when he made Cleveland his headquarters, just like WL and the BB made Anaheim their headquarters. I'm not justifying the BB's actions (that's a different story altogether). But for this post, I'm focusing in on Titus.

There is nothing wrong with doing your own work, having your own ministry. However, the way Titus was doing it by speaking negatively against the BB behind their backs, putting down their ministry... Hey, if I were the BB, I would have not been happy either.

As I said in previous posts, there is nothing wrong with having your own ministry. The problem is the competition. And Titus WAS competing against the BB for supporters and loyalists. There is no doubt in my mind about that!
From the beginning I have said that all the backbiting leading up to and including the quarantine had nothing to do with the truths of the Bible. It was just a power struggle for control of the Recovery.

Titus Chu loved to portray himself around the world as the only brother under WL not playing politics, but the way he handled the John Ingalls quarantine proved otherwise. He knew John personally, and knew that all the conspiracy / rebellion talk was utter nonsense, and he knew that John had some very legitimate concerns about LSM and its management. Titus awas well aware of the character (or lack thereof) of Phillip Lee, and that one of the molested sisters was from the Cleveland area. Yet he played the hypocrite, signed that letter by Benson, and betrayed John Ingalls and all the other brothers who stuck their necks out for righteousness' sake.

Regarding the backstabbing rhetoric leading up to the quarantine, you are right that Titus knew what he was doing, but he also thought that many more brothers would support him. I'm sure of that. I doubt that he ever imagined Benjamen Chen in NYC would side with the Blendeds against him. He never thought Bill Barker and Jim Reetske in Chicago would flip-flop their support, since they were always on board against the Blendeds. He also expected more support in the Far East, especially Taiwan, Indonesia, Malaysia, and S. Korea.
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"Power struggle for control in the Recovery" was the exact phrase I was looking for. WL here is likened to the king of a kingdom. When he died, various sons (co-workers) of his wanted to be the successor. Titus was one of them.
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He never thought Bill Barker and Jim Reetske in Chicago would flip-flop their support, since they were always on board against the Blendeds.
Anyone have any insight on what happened there?

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Anyone have any insight on what happened there?

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I heard (read on the forum?) from David Canfield that Titus Chu severely rebuked Bill Barker in a leaders' meeting in front of others. It was something, I think, related to the Spanish speaking work in the Chicago area, and probably something Titus should never have got involved with. Bill Barker took offense, and Canfield felt that that affected his decision to switch allegiances.

The official word from Cleveland at the time of the flip-flop was that it was a "business decision." Chicago had a huge mortgage from the expansion of their meeting hall, with one of the goals to host huge conferences for Titus to speak at. At least one wealthy brother threatened to leave if Chicago sided with Cleveland.

Until that decision, both Barker and Reetske were against the one publication policy. Reetske in fact declared, "brothers have died for their right to publish." LSM, in an compromise agreement to garner support, agreed to allow Reetske to continue to publish his pamphlets on numerous topics.

After that decision was made, LSM felt it had the necessary support to proceed with the quarantine. They quickly moved into numerous GLA LC's to support the "faithful" in filing lawsuits to capture church real estate assets. Also, numerous full-time workers (almost a dozen in all) and their families left greater Chicago and moved to TC-friendly LC's in the region, shoring up support in preparation for battle.
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