Perry and Palin tied to Dominion Movement

[awareness]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

This seems far too naive for you. Since when do you look at issues superficially and assume that the black and white law will govern the man with a deceitfully wicked heart? Bottom line, if you have ways to funnel money to influential and powerful people you will get many perks and benefits. As I mentioned earlier, saints that attend our meeting will get tickets if they park on the street, but at the exact same time and in the exact same spot those that attend the mosque do not get tickets, they are exempt. Why? We have a much bigger property, we have purchased 3 parking lots, we have an agreement with the operator of a 4th lot. The mosque has no parking lot and I am not aware of any agreement they have with anyone else.

Wouldn't it be a Christian testimony if you guys allowed those attending the mosque to use your parking lots? Why be at odds with your neighbor.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by awareness

Wouldn't it be a Christian testimony if you guys allowed those attending the mosque to use your parking lots? Why be at odds with your neighbor.

If you do this for the mosque, awareness will call you gutless.
If you don't do this for the mosque, awareness will call you heartless.

You "win" either way, since you are supposed to "suffer."

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Ohio

If you do this for the mosque, awareness will call you gutless.
If you don't do this for the mosque, awareness will call you heartless.

You "win" either way, since you are supposed to "suffer."

Well what is funny is that if we did this for anyone the city would call us liable. The church I meet with once lost some apartments adjacent to our current property because someone was injured while being fed at our soup kitchen. This was prior to the passing of the good samaritan laws.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Ohio

If you do this for the mosque, awareness will call you gutless.
If you don't do this for the mosque, awareness will call you heartless.

You "win" either way, since you are supposed to "suffer."

Oh pooy, yer caricature of me is false.

And I'm sure if leaders of your Christian group went to law enforcement with leaders from the mosque, and you told them you wanted to share the parking lots and the street parking, they'd be so impressed with your Christian gesture that they would allow it, and would cease ticketing your group.

And God would probably bless your church with increased revenue to more than cover the cost of your parking.

Have a little faith and love your Muslim neighbors too. Jesus didn't say love your neighbors unless they are Muslim.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by awareness

Oh pooy, yer caricature of me is false.

And I'm sure if leaders of your Christian group went to law enforcement with leaders from the mosque, and you told them you wanted to share the parking lots and the street parking, they'd be so impressed with your Christian gesture that they would allow it, and would cease ticketing your group.

And God would probably bless your church with increased revenue to more than cover the cost of your parking.

Have a little faith and love your Muslim neighbors too. Jesus didn't say love your neighbors unless they are Muslim.

I think this would be a very interesting suggestion if the Mosque actually came and asked to use our parking. I imagine if a Mosque (and there is a very large one not too far from us with a large parking lot) came to us, uninvited and said "hey, would you guys like to use our parking lot during service" we would find that to be a very strange request. Now if they were truly next door neighbors they might say "we noticed your parking lots are full and ours aren't", but since the Mosque is 10 blocks away, I would feel very strange and very uncomfortable with that request. Not because it is a mosque, but because it comes across as very strange. So, in the same way I expect the Mosque would feel equally uncomfortable with your suggestion coming from us.

Also, I imagine the Mosque would lose out in the deal. Who wants to park 10 blocks away if you can find a parking space closer? But once you open the street up to both groups it may be that they will have to park 10 blocks away. Only, there wouldn't be any room in our parking lot because why would someone at our church park on the street if there were still room in the lot? As I said earlier, we hold 3 meetings on the Lord's day, starting at 8.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by awareness

Have a little faith and love your Muslim neighbors too. Jesus didn't say love your neighbors unless they are Muslim.

Great message awareness.

Telling us to love those Muslims, but not those LCers.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Great message awareness.

Telling us to love those Muslims, but not those LCers.

Yes Awareness, glad to see you are now talking about loving others. Let's hope to hear more of this new and improved Awareness.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

Yes Awareness, glad to see you are now talking about loving others. Let's hope to hear more of this new and improved Awareness.

My bark is worse than my bite ...

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Great message awareness.

Telling us to love those Muslims, but not those LCers.

Pooy again. I love both the Muslims and the LCers, but that doesn't mean I let them off the hook when they err.

Truth is if the LCers loved me there would be no problem between us. The love drops off on their side... When opportunity arises I do try to love them...but according to them I'm poison and the anti-Christ so, they don't love me back...

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by awareness

Pooy again. I love both the Muslims and the LCers, but that doesn't mean I let them off the hook when they err.

Truth is if the LCers loved me there would be no problem between us. The love drops off on their side... When opportunity arises I do try to love them...but according to them I'm poison and the anti-Christ so, they don't love me back...

Bible says to dump some hot coals on their head.

They will really love you then.

[rayliotta]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Bible says to dump some hot coals on their head.

They will really love you then.

You've been expressing some real warm sentiments toward Muslims, Ohio, right here in this thread. What the hell you razzing awareness about?

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Bible says to dump some hot coals on their head.

They will really love you then.

No, Proverbs says by giving yer enemy bread and water you heap hot coals on their head ... and the Lord shall reward thee.

That's why Z's church should be kind to the Muslims, and share parking... and the Lord will reward them...

But I don't look upon all Muslims as my enemy. Some of them yes. But I've come to know some Muslims that love God and others more than many Christians I've known.

God is drawing all men to Himself...even Muslims.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by awareness

Wouldn't it be a Christian testimony if you guys allowed those attending the mosque to use your parking lots? Why be at odds with your neighbor.

As it turns out our neighbor is another congregation of Christians and that is the "4th" lot I was referring to as having an agreement. But since our lots are filled and we are in the process of trying to acquire more that would seem to be counterproductive. But, also, the Mosque itself is probably 10 blocks away. I don't think they would want to walk that far, especially since they can park on the street closer.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

As it turns out our neighbor is another congregation of Christians and that is the "4th" lot I was referring to as having an agreement. But since our lots are filled and we are in the process of trying to acquire more that would seem to be counterproductive. But, also, the Mosque itself is probably 10 blocks away. I don't think they would want to walk that far, especially since they can park on the street closer.

There is no way that mosque should have received an occupancy permit. Every city has prescribed ratios for mandatory parking spaces. In the rural areas, it may be as high as one parking space per 2 seats, and in the city (with public transportation) it may be as low as one parking space per 10 seats, but parking will be required. I suppose the one exception would be downtown churches, like "the city" of Manhattan, where public parking is available.