The Church in Sardis prefigures the Protestant Reformation?

[Evangelical]

A physical body would obey the laws of physics. Jesus's resurrected body did not, suggesting it was not physical in that sense. Yet it is not a spirit either, it is a spiritual body. Physical bodies like ours cannot live in heaven, just as I'm sure a physical chair cannot exist in heaven or if it can, is made of the same substance Jesus is made of.

[A little brother]

Dear brother, in front of the creator of heaven and earth, I am afraid we both know nothing about the laws of physics.

[Drake]

Originally Posted by A little brother

Dear brother, in front of the creator of heaven and earth, I am afraid we both know nothing about the laws of physics.

alb,

It's all a mystery?

If you feel that way then why are you arguing as if you do know?

Drake

[A little brother]

It was meant to be a polite way to ask Evangelical not to be so sure about "the laws of physics" and instead trust the Lord's words more. At least I am not aware of such laws that decribe what it would be like in heaven while he seemed very sure about what heaven is like.

I started with the common use of "physical" (vs "spiritual"), as something related to material, something you can see and touch. Luke 24:39 describes what Jesus said and it exactly matches the meaning of being physical.

You were right, it's mystery to me. But I am not arguing as if I do know. I simply throw out what I think I know and see whether there are better ideas. Isn't that what discussion is about?

I often use 2 Cor 8:2 to remind myself,

2 Cor 8:2 If anyone thinks that he knows anything, he has not yet come to know as he ought to know;

[Drake]

alb>"It was meant to be a polite way to ask Evangelical not to be so sure about "the laws of physics" and instead trust the Lord's words more."

I don't believe there is a difference. Evangelical is not referencing Stephen Hawkings.

But, look, please stimulate conversation anyway you please. Sometimes I might even join in.

Drake

[A little brother]

Sure, will do.

[Evangelical]

A chair is for sitting, because people get tired if they stand too much.
They get tired if they stand too much because of gravity.
Therefore if chairs exist in heaven then gravity exists in heaven.
Gravity is a consequence of the curvature of spacetime caused by the uneven distribution of mass.
Therefore, if a chair exists in heaven, then heaven is possibly located on a planet in our universe.
This is what the known laws of physics tell me.

[UntoHim]

Thanks Mr. E for that enlightening soliloquy.

I knew there was a reason I started this forum.
-

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Evangelical

A physical body would obey the laws of physics. Jesus's resurrected body did not, suggesting it was not physical in that sense. Yet it is not a spirit either, it is a spiritual body. Physical bodies like ours cannot live in heaven, just as I'm sure a physical chair cannot exist in heaven or if it can, is made of the same substance Jesus is made of.

Elijah had a physical body, yet was carried into heaven, contrary to the laws of physics. Lazarus was dead, rotting in the tomb, yet he heard the voice of Jesus and immediately forgot all of those laws.

Physics just don't work so well in God's kingdom.