Apostles

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Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

There are "wolves". Clearly, the goal of the wolf is to devour the sheep. So among the false prophets and false apostles evidence that the person is "devouring" the sheep as in Daystar, or the PL travesty, etc would be evidence of the person being a wolf. Based on this I would say that there is evidence that WL was a wolf.

Lee was a second- or third-rate Bible expositor, when compared to Origen and Erasmus. But he was certainly a better Bible expositor than I, and many pastors and reverends out there tending to the flock.

The problem with Lee was that he was held up as more than merely a Bible expositor. He was, variously, a "seer" or "oracle", conveying the depths of God's heart, and God's plan, to we dull and sightless ones. He was God's "deputy authority", able to raise up and depose various underlings, ("elders and co-workers") who in turn were to shepherd the flock. He was the "apostle of the age", able to guide the whole body of Christ on the earth through organizing various "moves of the Lord". And so forth.

So if we try him and find him false (Daystar, Philip Lee), then yes, he is a wolf. A wolf is a sheep who oversteps his allotted portion and begins to bite and devour the other sheep (I think of verse 6 of Jude, with angels who didn't stay in their allotted place but overstepped their position). Better to be a bible expositor who in hindsight is arguably a prophet, oracle, or apostle, than a supposedly super apostle who was in fact just a second-rate bible expositor.

On a related note (sheep, wolves, etc) it struck me today that sheep pens, though somewhat confining, and probably boring (lacking lush green grass and smoothly flowing rivers and mountain vistas and such), are at least safe. If Jesus leads you out of the sheep fold, and brings you to green pastures and beside still waters, fine. You feast and remain safe. But the wolf will also try to lure you out. He will get you to leave the fold, and then he will devour you.

In the 1970s there was quite a bit of "non-traditional" christianity going on, and suddenly it dawned on the flock that some of these leaders, who offered "different" and "fresh" teachings, were actually wolves. I am thinking of ones like Jim Jones, and David Moses Berg. Jim Jones had been a Methodist pastor. Berg was I think from the Christian and Misssionary Alliance. They stressed "ignored Bible truths" to their audience, and led their flocks outside the sheep pen, and then they devoured them.

With Philip Lee and Daystar, I am beginning to suspect that Lee was really a wolf.