How is the Virus Affecting You?

[TLFisher]

Originally Posted by Sons to Glory!

I am quite skeptical of the data as well. Subjectively I know I'm hearing more in my extended circles who are getting it, at least supposedly. And hear of a death or two, but not of those we know personally. Of course this is anecdotal at best. We are at the mercy of what we are told - kinda like sheep, eh? But what does the Shepherd's voice say? "In the world you will have tribulation. But fear not and be of good cheer for I have overcome this world!"

Certainly does seem this covid has a mind of its own. Foreknowledge to avoid protests, riots, Home Depot, Lowe's, Kroger, Safeway, casinos, etc. As it comes to businesses of sole proprietors, restaurant chains, churches, mosques, GOP rallies, that's when people get infected.
If masks are so effective, we as a society should be forgoing seasonal flu shots in favor of masks.
Yes we are like sheep until we wake up. Meaning no longer believing news reports. In that sense the mainstream media and LSM are very similar: I do not believe what I am told.
Amen to your word of encouragement:
"In the world you will have tribulation. But fear not and be of good cheer for I have overcome this world!"

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Terry&StG&Jesus

"In the world you will have tribulation. But fear not and be of good cheer for I have overcome this world!"

"Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves; so be wise as serpents and innocent as doves."

[Boxjobox]

Three cheers for John MacArthur who is standing up and proclaiming that the Governor of my state, California, has no right to dictate, to control the church.
Gov. Newsom would have the church and church practices under state control. Mr. MacArthur rightly proclaims that under the constitution, the state has NO right to dictate church practices.
Christian Lives Matter, I’m so glad a church leader finally stood up and says Newsom, get your knee off our necks! I would that all of Gods people were so clear and bold.

[TLFisher]

Originally Posted by Boxjobox

Three cheers for John MacArthur who is standing up and proclaiming that the Governor of my state, California, has no right to dictate, to control the church.
Gov. Newsom would have the church and church practices under state control. Mr. MacArthur rightly proclaims that under the constitution, the state has NO right to dictate church practices.
Christian Lives Matter, I’m so glad a church leader finally stood up and says Newsom, get your knee off our necks! I would that all of Gods people were so clear and bold.

I saw that. Gov Newsom changes his tune depending on the situation. Yet Lowe's and Home Depot, not a problem. The winery Gov Newsom has a ownership stake in, not a problem.
I was at Costco yesterday in Fontana, Ca. Sure entrance was regulated, but those waiting to go inside, it was as if everything returned to normal. No social distancing, but wearing masks. How is it that cannot be done in churches?

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Boxjobox

Three cheers for John MacArthur who is standing up and proclaiming that the Governor of my state, California, has no right to dictate, to control the church.
Gov. Newsom would have the church and church practices under state control. Mr. MacArthur rightly proclaims that under the constitution, the state has NO right to dictate church practices.
Christian Lives Matter, I’m so glad a church leader finally stood up and says Newsom, get your knee off our necks! I would that all of Gods people were so clear and bold.

No one has the right to be a Typhoid Mary, Christian or not. And the governor has the constitutional right to protect his citizens.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by awareness

No one has the right to be a Typhoid Mary, Christian or not. And the governor has the constitutional right to protect his citizens.

Awareness, this virus has had a serious effect on your thinking.

Constitutional rights are legislated by an elected body, not mandated by tyrranical governors.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Awareness, this virus has had a serious effect on your thinking.

Constitutional rights are legislated by an elected body, not mandated by tyrranical governors.

Well it's had the same affect on Trump defender Alan Dershowitz, who made the claim that governors have a constitutional right.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by awareness

Well it's had the same affect on Trump defender Alan Dershowitz, who made the claim that governors have a constitutional right.

So Dershowitz "trumps" the constitution?

The real question is whether Dershowitz was on Epstein's island and private jet.

[Sons to Glory!]

Our leading ones just sent out an email with a link to John MacArthur, telling what his group's stance is regarding the California governor's edict for churches not to meet. The elders said what John stated is fairly representative of their thoughts as well.

Interview with John MacArthur regarding California Church Closing Edict

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Ohio

The real question is whether Dershowitz was on Epstein's island and private jet.

Along with him, Trump, Clinton, and Andrew ... and a host of high powered influential's, unnamed of course ... who prolly had Epstein killed.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Ohio

So Dershowitz "trumps" the constitution?

Like Ohio, with his gross malignant religious bias, is a higher authority on the constitution than Dershowitz.

[Boxjobox]

Originally Posted by awareness

No one has the right to be a Typhoid Mary, Christian or not. And the governor has the constitutional right to protect his citizens.

We live in a nation with constitutional rights. Free informed people have the right to make informed personal choices on how to conduct their lives.
COVID-19 is not typhoid. A 2 week stay at home to get a handle on the situation was understandable. A 4 month suspension of constitutional rights is unacceptable. Newsom should be recalled- he does not know how to govern in a constitutional society.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Sons to Glory!

How are things where you are?

I have 2 family members who manage staffs in hospitals, OH and FL, and both told us recently that their hospitals had zero cases.

Others have told us how they have seen Covid numbers continually exaggerated and fabricated. One was recently widowed, and told the medical staff, "don't you dare put Covid on my husband's death certificate, because I know better."

It is just as easy to buy off a scientist as it is a politician.

[TLFisher]

Originally Posted by Ohio

I have 2 family members who manage staffs in hospitals, OH and FL, and both told us recently that their hospitals had zero cases.

Others have told us how they have seen Covid numbers continually exaggerated and fabricated. One was recently widowed, and told the medical staff, "don't you dare put Covid on my husband's death certificate, because I know better."

It is just as easy to buy off a scientist as it is a politician.

I'd like to point out those two hospital ships sent to L.A. and N.Y.C. How is it they were largely vacant?
The real hospital crisis is declaring a pause on routine services and procedures. As hospitals were reopened for these patients, that was overwhelming the hospital professionals.