Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching
06-25-2025, 05:46 AM
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Replies: 28
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Re: Permanency of Marriage
Some notes I jot down after meditating on the marriage law given by Jesus (Luke 16:18, Mark 10:11-12):
We are now no longer under the law of Moses but the law of Christ which includes his...
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Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching
06-24-2025, 03:48 PM
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Replies: 7
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Re: Paradise was taken to heaven
More evidence paradise was taken to heaven:
Jesus provided the blood for the new covenant with his death on the cross:
Matthew 26:28
“For this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out...
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Forum: Oh Lord, Where Do We Go From Here?
06-22-2025, 08:31 PM
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Forum: Introductions and Testimonies
06-22-2025, 12:18 PM
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Replies: 23
Views: 815
Re: Marriage advice
To bring this topic back to marriage advice, I also recommend OP to read "Till Death Do Us Part?" by Dr. Joseph Webb to understand that marriage is truly for life. If you do marry, God will...
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Forum: Introductions and Testimonies
06-22-2025, 11:48 AM
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Replies: 23
Views: 815
Re: Marriage advice
https://thelogosofagape.wordpress.com/2018/07/25/pistis-pisteos-and-pisteuo-a-greek-word-study/
The idea that faith in the NT could be understood as a kind of "allegiance" to the god you worship...
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Forum: Introductions and Testimonies
06-21-2025, 09:44 PM
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Replies: 23
Views: 815
Re: Marriage advice
My theology has shifted after leaving the LCs. I hold to a traditional true/false Christian dichotomy and not to overcomer/non-overcoming believer/unbeliever trichotomy which Lee and Nee inherited...
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Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching
06-20-2025, 11:15 AM
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Replies: 28
Views: 850
Re: Permanency of Marriage
I think McFall's argument is that μὴ ἐπὶ would mean that the exclusion clause only applies to divorce and not remarriage whereas εἰ μὴ ἐπὶ would broaden the exclusion clause to both divorce and...
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Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching
06-20-2025, 08:00 AM
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Replies: 28
Views: 850
Re: Permanency of Marriage
Yes, Dr. McFall's point is that we have moved off of Erasmus Greek text for English translation with the exception of Matthew 19:9 which is inconsistent.
1. μὴ ἐπὶ πορνείᾳ = “not for fornication”...
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Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching
06-20-2025, 07:42 AM
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Replies: 28
Views: 850
Re: Permanency of Marriage
It's clear Matthew 19:9 is controversial. My question is why do evangelicals base their doctrine of divorce and remarriage based on this controversial verse when there are so many other clear verses...
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Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching
06-20-2025, 07:36 AM
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Replies: 414
Views: 25,188
Re: Prophecy - The End Times
The 13th of Nisan on the Hebrew Calendar is April 2nd in our 2015 calendar. April 2nd 2015 also happens to be the date when the Iran Nuclear deal was announced.
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Forum: Introductions and Testimonies
06-20-2025, 05:19 AM
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Replies: 2
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Re: Ministry book recommendations
JorgeP’s suggestion to primarily read the Bible is a good one. One of the unhealthy mindsets in the local churches is the tendency to treat the Bible as a complex puzzle that must be deciphered- an...
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Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching
06-20-2025, 04:18 AM
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Replies: 28
Views: 850
Re: Permanency of Marriage
Perhaps another way to interpret the verse via the "not for" translation is that Jesus does not permit marrying the divorced woman-- why? Because she is still married to the husband she is divorced...
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Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching
06-19-2025, 02:27 PM
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Replies: 28
Views: 850
Re: Permanency of Marriage
On the subject of translations, this video covers evidence that Erasmus corrupted his Greek NT edition which the first English Tyndale bible is based on to allow for remarriage due to adultery in...
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Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching
06-19-2025, 05:58 AM
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Replies: 28
Views: 850
Re: Permanency of Marriage
During the Jerusalem Council in Acts 15, the Gentile believers were given just a few essential instructions- among them, to abstain from sexual immorality and from food sacrificed to idols. You might...
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Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching
06-18-2025, 03:49 PM
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Replies: 28
Views: 850
Re: Permanency of Marriage
Matthew is of course intended for everyone including Gentiles to read as is the book of James which was addressed to the twelve tribes of Israel. However the original intent of the author may have...
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Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching
06-18-2025, 01:01 PM
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Replies: 28
Views: 850
Re: Permanency of Marriage
Nice sleuthing, indeed Tyndale was the first to translate the bible into English, however he used Erasmus' Greek NT edition as the basis for translation. Hence some have said "Erasmus gave us the...
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Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching
06-18-2025, 10:19 AM
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Replies: 28
Views: 850
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Forum: Introductions and Testimonies
06-18-2025, 09:52 AM
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Replies: 23
Views: 815
Re: Marriage advice
Jude 1:4
For certain individuals whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into a license for...
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Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching
06-18-2025, 09:38 AM
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Replies: 28
Views: 850
Re: Permanency of Marriage
You could be right about the English definition of fornication & adultery. I was looking at it from the lens of the Adultery vs Fornication debate of Matthew 19:9 where the terms are more tightly...
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Forum: Introductions and Testimonies
06-18-2025, 05:10 AM
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Replies: 23
Views: 815
Re: Marriage advice
The warning in Acts 20:29 is applied to false teachers & wolves who Jesus said are not saved and destined to be burned in fire (Matt 7:15-20). Among them were the docetists who deny the deity of...
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Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching
06-17-2025, 05:29 PM
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Replies: 28
Views: 850
Re: Permanency of Marriage
Interestingly, the recovery version has the more accurate translation of porneia in Matthew 19:9 just like the KJV and older bible translations:
Fornication is defined as pre-marital sex which...
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Forum: Introductions and Testimonies
06-17-2025, 01:18 PM
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Replies: 23
Views: 815
Re: Marriage advice
People on this forum will have different opinions but for myself I had to deprogram myself of many of Witness Lee's teachings which were unbiblical before I could understand the bible. One premise of...
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Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching
06-16-2025, 08:48 AM
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Replies: 28
Views: 850
Re: Permanency of Marriage
Came across a very interesting PDF on the history of divorce and remarriage in the church:
http://www.danielrjennings.org/ThisHistoryOfChristianThoughtOnMarriageDivorceAndRemarriage.pdf
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Forum: Orthodoxy - Christian Teaching
06-14-2025, 09:47 AM
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Replies: 28
Views: 850
Re: Permanency of Marriage
Jesus said in John 12:47-48 that his words will judge us in the day of judgment:
“If anyone hears my words but does not keep them, I do not judge that person. For I did not come to judge the world,...
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Forum: Introductions and Testimonies
06-13-2025, 05:39 AM
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Replies: 23
Views: 815
Re: Marriage advice
Professor Chris Yuan was born with same sex attraction and came by my local church once and gave his testimony on his journey to faith. You might find these two books by him helpful:
"Out of a Far...
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