Fearing God

Trapped · 03-13-2021, 04:30 PM

Witness Lee loved to rank things.

-A is better than B.
-C is higher than D.
-E is not adequate, but F is.

And he loved to rank things that are not mutually exclusive, and he loved to pit things against each other that shouldn't be pitted against each other. He loved to take knives to a cohesive thing and slice it up into components that there aren't benefits to dividing up that finely. This way, no one could ever rest. Everyone was always defeated and introspective and self-analytical and condemned that they, for example, feared God and turned away from evil but did not do Witness Lee's top-ranked thing of properly expressing Him.

Lee was wrong. Putting fearing God, expressing God, and turning away from evil all in a boxing ring and pitting them against each other was dumb of him to do.

People don't have kids because they want an expression of themself. They have kids because they want kids. They want to delight in something they made that is not themselves. If the kid is like the father, that's amazing, but plenty of kids are very different and opposite from their parents, and they are not a failed child as a result. "Expression" is too broad of a word to bandy around and expect that everyone has the same idea in mind when we use it. And that's another thing Lee liked - vagueness.

Only Witness Lee's delusional mind could claim that fearing God and turning away from evil IS NOT POSITIVE.

This is the paragraph from the LS of Job that the OP's quote was nestled in:

"Job 1:1 says, "There was a man in the land of Uz whose name was Job; and this man was perfect and upright, and he feared God and turned away from evil." Being perfect is related to our inner man, and being upright is related to our outer man. Furthermore, to be upright means that we are not crooked or biased.

In addition to being perfect inwardly and upright outwardly, Job feared God positively and turned away from evil negatively. However, even with the positive matter of fearing God, there is not anything that is actually positive. God did not create man merely to fear Him without doing anything wrong. The Bible tells us that God created man in His own image and after His likeness that man may express Him (Gen. 1:26). This is the most positive thing among all positive things. To fear God and turn away from evil is not adequate, and actually this is not positive. The most positive thing is to express God. To express God is higher than fearing God and turning away from evil."

First of all, who says that being perfect is inner and being upright is outer? What?! Who says that's true? Lee? It's meaningless. Lee makes a statement that has no value to the listener and moreover, just expects everyone to just swallow it.

Secondly, I remember as a kid hearing "ABC positively, and XYZ negatively" or "ABC on the positive side" and "XYZ on the negative side", and always thought it was a strange way of putting it. Fearing God positively and turning away from evil negatively? Huh?

Also note that Lee states that Genesis 1:26 says that God created man in His own image and after His likeness (correct so far) that man may express Him -- WRONG! Genesis 1:26 doesn't say that at all. It says:

Then God said, "Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."

I'm truly sick of Lee literally making things up as he goes. So what he's done here is make a statement that is not found in the verse he referenced, and he then uses that falsehood to make another false statement about Job that is also unsupported by the book of Job.

And frankly, once you get to Job 38, 39, 40, etc.....I would describe those chapters as all about fearing God! And Lee wants to claim that's not adequate or low in some way??

Just toss Witness Lee out. He's deceived and led astray too many people.

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StG, it is rich of you to try to pin other people down that they are avoiding things purposely or not wanting to address them....... Surely you can see the irony in that.

UntoHim can see full well what you are talking about, and he's trying to tell you that what you are talking about is an immediate digression from the OP. The owner of the forum is trying to get you to return to the OP.

03-13-2021, 04:30 PM	#21
Trapped Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 1,523	Re: Fearing God Witness Lee loved to rank things. -A is better than B. -C is higher than D. -E is not adequate, but F is. And he loved to rank things that are not mutually exclusive, and he loved to pit things against each other that shouldn't be pitted against each other. He loved to take knives to a cohesive thing and slice it up into components that there aren't benefits to dividing up that finely. This way, no one could ever rest. Everyone was always defeated and introspective and self-analytical and condemned that they, for example, feared God and turned away from evil but did not do Witness Lee's top-ranked thing of properly expressing Him. Lee was wrong. Putting fearing God, expressing God, and turning away from evil all in a boxing ring and pitting them against each other was dumb of him to do. People don't have kids because they want an expression of themself. They have kids because they want kids. They want to delight in something they made that is not themselves. If the kid is like the father, that's amazing, but plenty of kids are very different and opposite from their parents, and they are not a failed child as a result. "Expression" is too broad of a word to bandy around and expect that everyone has the same idea in mind when we use it. And that's another thing Lee liked - vagueness. Only Witness Lee's delusional mind could claim that fearing God and turning away from evil IS NOT POSITIVE. This is the paragraph from the LS of Job that the OP's quote was nestled in: "Job 1:1 says, "There was a man in the land of Uz whose name was Job; and this man was perfect and upright, and he feared God and turned away from evil." Being perfect is related to our inner man, and being upright is related to our outer man. Furthermore, to be upright means that we are not crooked or biased. In addition to being perfect inwardly and upright outwardly, Job feared God positively and turned away from evil negatively. However, even with the positive matter of fearing God, there is not anything that is actually positive. God did not create man merely to fear Him without doing anything wrong. The Bible tells us that God created man in His own image and after His likeness that man may express Him (Gen. 1:26). This is the most positive thing among all positive things. To fear God and turn away from evil is not adequate, and actually this is not positive. The most positive thing is to express God. To express God is higher than fearing God and turning away from evil." First of all, who says that being perfect is inner and being upright is outer? What?! Who says that's true? Lee? It's meaningless. Lee makes a statement that has no value to the listener and moreover, just expects everyone to just swallow it. Secondly, I remember as a kid hearing "ABC positively, and XYZ negatively" or "ABC on the positive side" and "XYZ on the negative side", and always thought it was a strange way of putting it. Fearing God positively and turning away from evil negatively? Huh? Also note that Lee states that Genesis 1:26 says that God created man in His own image and after His likeness (correct so far) that man may express Him -- WRONG! Genesis 1:26 doesn't say that at all. It says: Then God said, "Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground." I'm truly sick of Lee literally making things up as he goes. So what he's done here is make a statement that is not found in the verse he referenced, and he then uses that falsehood to make another false statement about Job that is also unsupported by the book of Job. And frankly, once you get to Job 38, 39, 40, etc.....I would describe those chapters as all about fearing God! And Lee wants to claim that's not adequate or low in some way?? Just toss Witness Lee out. He's deceived and led astray too many people. --------------------- StG, it is rich of you to try to pin other people down that they are avoiding things purposely or not wanting to address them....... Surely you can see the irony in that. UntoHim can see full well what you are talking about, and he's trying to tell you that what you are talking about is an immediate digression from the OP. The owner of the forum is trying to get you to return to the OP.