Boxjobox on modalism

[Boxjobox]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Look at Titus 2.10-14, "Not pilfering, but showing all good faith so that they will adorn the doctrine of God our Savior in every respect. For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men, instructing us to deny ungodliness and worldly desires and to live sensibly, righteously and godly in the present age, looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus, who gave Himself for us to redeem us from every lawless deed, and to purify for Himself a people for His own possession, zealous for good deeds."

We have talked about this before- the meaning changes depending on where the translators put commas, which are not in Greek. the version you give puts a comma after God and savior. Many put a comma after God: our God , and savior Jesus Christ. This is not a good verse to try to promote your view, in that meaning is not sufficiently clear.

Concerning our hope in relation to this what Paul says, you may want to read 1Peter chapter one.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Boxjobox

We have talked about this before- the meaning changes depending on where the translators put commas, which are not in Greek. the version you give puts a comma after God and savior. Many put a comma after God: our God , and savior Jesus Christ. This is not a good verse to try to promote your view, in that meaning is not sufficiently clear.

Concerning our hope in relation to this what Paul says, you may want to read 1Peter chapter one.

No amount of commas in the world can save your heresy. Read my post again.

[Boxjobox]

Originally Posted by Ohio

No amount of commas in the world can save your heresy. Read my post again.

The reward from Jesus my Lord at his return from his God(and my God) to those who faithfully keep his word. This is my hope and desire. I’m so glad that Jesus has such a heart for us heretics! Not a bad reward, hey. And what do you see our Lord Jesus offering those of you that live in your world of belief? May God our Savior and Jesus our Lord be merciful to us all on that day!

I know thy works (behold, I have set before thee a door opened, which none can shut), that thou hast a little power, and didst keep my word, and didst not deny my name. 9Behold, I give of the synagogue of Satan, of them that say they are Jews, and they are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee. 10Because thou didst keep the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of trial, that hour which is to come upon the whole world, to try them that dwell upon the earth. 11I come quickly: hold fast that which thou hast, that no one take thy crown. 12He that overcometh, I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go out thence no more: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God, and mine own new name. 13He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith to the churches.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Ohio

No amount of commas in the world can save your heresy. Read my post again.

And to think dyed in the wool Bible believers can't admit that the originals didn't have any grammar, or, for that matter, no chapters and verses ... leaving it to the discretion of the translators to put it together, so that it makes sense.

Consequently, arguing over commas is folly.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by awareness

And to think dyed in the wool Bible believers can't admit that the originals didn't have any grammar, or, for that matter, no chapters and verses ... leaving it to the discretion of the translators to put it together, so that it makes sense.

Consequently, arguing over commas is folly.

Go read the verses. With commas and without. With grammar and without. With chapters and verses and without.

But just wait a minute ... you don't believe any of the scripture because we don't have the originals.

So you tell me what is folly.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Ohio

But just wait a minute ... you don't believe any of the scripture because we don't have the originals.

Thanks. I didn't know I don't believe any of the scriptures. I'll take a closer look.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by awareness

Thanks. I didn't know I don't believe any of the scriptures. I'll take a closer look.

That's what you have been telling us for years. But glad to hear you will take a closer look!

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Ohio

That's what you have been telling us for years. But glad to hear you will take a closer look!

If I find the autograph copies, I'll be sure to let you know.

[Boxjobox]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Go read the verses. With commas and without. With grammar and without. With chapters and verses and without.

But just wait a minute ... you don't believe any of the scripture because we don't have the originals.

So you tell me what is folly.

This is modalism in action! The commas are not, then are, then move- why it’s nothing less than a triune manuscript! You have a source, a creation, and an acting force- you might even call it a processed, triune manuscript.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Boxjobox

This is modalism in action! The commas are not, then are, then move- why it’s nothing less than a triune manuscript! You have a source, a creation, and an acting force- you might even call it a processed, triune manuscript.

Makes no sense. Care to add some intelligence and rewrite this?

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Boxjobox

This is modalism in action! The commas are not, then are, then move- why it’s nothing less than a triune manuscript! You have a source, a creation, and an acting force- you might even call it a processed, triune manuscript.

I get it. We can play loosey-goosey with the commas, to make it say what we want. Modalism, and Processed T God, is the same slippery kind of thing.

I like 'em all. Even the trinity. But I've been known to entertain plenty of non-scriptural things.