The Recovery of The Local Churches in Vietnam

Hodos · 11-10-2020, 01:41 AM

DO NOT SET UP FOR THEE ANY IMAGE:

Deuteronomy 16:22 (Jubilee Bible) “Neither shalt thou set THEE up any image, which the LORD thy God hates”.
It is disastrous that several English versions lack the word "for thee" in this verse.

--1 Samuel 15:12, “it was told Samuel, saying, Saul came to Carmel, and, behold, he set himself up a monument”.
--2 Samuel 18:18, “Now Absalom, while he was alive, had taken and reared up for himself a pillar, which is in the king’s valley; for he said, I have no son to keep my name in remembrance. And he called the pillar after his own name, and it is called unto this day, Absalom’s place. {Heb. hand}”

--- Billy Graham, a famous evangelist, when he was alive, agreed to have his statue erected and his son to attend a inauguration of that statue.
--- After his martyrdom, Paul only saved his memories of the 14 epistles in the New Testament Bible. This is not a venerable pillar.
--- Lee Kuan Yew was a Singapore prime minister, he had ordered in advance that his body is burned and not built into a shrine.
--- But a man, dubbed a MOTA, certainly ordered people to build his mausoleum (royal tomb) in a way that would cost much God -money.

In 1999, for the first time, LSM chose two people being called VietNamese restoration community leaders to visit the LSM facility in the United States. When they returned to Vietnam, these two protested LSM hung two portraits frames of W.N and W.L. in a room that was probably a museum room, and they condemned it to idolatry.

But in 2006, after LSM formed a executive committee of Vietnam, and gradually they gave this committee a lot of money, so since then WL's name has been venerable and revered in the meetings, and in all Viet Nam's recovery communities that began in 1980. Tragically, 2006 can be considered an “Ichabod day” of all recovered saints in Vietnam -"The glory has departed from..” the so-called congregations in Viet Nam (1 Samuel 4:21 22). Since then Witness Lee robbed the Lord’s glory among the restored people of Vietnam.

Hodos-

Trapped · 11-14-2020, 05:11 PM

Hodos, I agree with your "Ichabod day" assessment. It is interesting that the local church points to the Old Testament ground of the temple as proof that "the church should be on the right ground". But in 1 Samuel we have the temple being on the right ground, but when the ark of the covenant is no longer there, God's glory leaves. The ark of the covenant contains the tablets with the 10 commandments, covered with the mercy seat which was sprinkled with blood once a year.

But the co-workers don't recognize the seriousness of sin or the treasure of the blood. Instead, they downplay sins, and cover sins with their own actions and schemes (rather than what God wants, which is for us to acknowledge sins so HE can be the one to cover us). And so, as in 1 Samuel, God's glory has also left the local church. So they can claim to "be on the right ground", but if we look at their idolizing of Lee and their covering up sins of their own accord, we can say with certainty that God's glory doesn't remain in that "temple".

11-10-2020, 01:41 AM	#1
Hodos Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Posts: 31	Re: The Recovery of The Local Churches in Vietnam DO NOT SET UP FOR THEE ANY IMAGE: Deuteronomy 16:22 (Jubilee Bible) “Neither shalt thou set THEE up any image, which the LORD thy God hates”. It is disastrous that several English versions lack the word "for thee" in this verse. --1 Samuel 15:12, “it was told Samuel, saying, Saul came to Carmel, and, behold, he set himself up a monument”. --2 Samuel 18:18, “Now Absalom, while he was alive, had taken and reared up for himself a pillar, which is in the king’s valley; for he said, I have no son to keep my name in remembrance. And he called the pillar after his own name, and it is called unto this day, Absalom’s place. {Heb. hand}” --- Billy Graham, a famous evangelist, when he was alive, agreed to have his statue erected and his son to attend a inauguration of that statue. --- After his martyrdom, Paul only saved his memories of the 14 epistles in the New Testament Bible. This is not a venerable pillar. --- Lee Kuan Yew was a Singapore prime minister, he had ordered in advance that his body is burned and not built into a shrine. --- But a man, dubbed a MOTA, certainly ordered people to build his mausoleum (royal tomb) in a way that would cost much God -money. In 1999, for the first time, LSM chose two people being called VietNamese restoration community leaders to visit the LSM facility in the United States. When they returned to Vietnam, these two protested LSM hung two portraits frames of W.N and W.L. in a room that was probably a museum room, and they condemned it to idolatry. But in 2006, after LSM formed a executive committee of Vietnam, and gradually they gave this committee a lot of money, so since then WL's name has been venerable and revered in the meetings, and in all Viet Nam's recovery communities that began in 1980. Tragically, 2006 can be considered an “Ichabod day” of all recovered saints in Vietnam -"The glory has departed from..” the so-called congregations in Viet Nam (1 Samuel 4:21 22). Since then Witness Lee robbed the Lord’s glory among the restored people of Vietnam. Hodos-

11-14-2020, 05:11 PM	#2
Trapped Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 1,523	Re: The Recovery of The Local Churches in Vietnam Hodos, I agree with your "Ichabod day" assessment. It is interesting that the local church points to the Old Testament ground of the temple as proof that "the church should be on the right ground". But in 1 Samuel we have the temple being on the right ground, but when the ark of the covenant is no longer there, God's glory leaves. The ark of the covenant contains the tablets with the 10 commandments, covered with the mercy seat which was sprinkled with blood once a year. But the co-workers don't recognize the seriousness of sin or the treasure of the blood. Instead, they downplay sins, and cover sins with their own actions and schemes (rather than what God wants, which is for us to acknowledge sins so HE can be the one to cover us). And so, as in 1 Samuel, God's glory has also left the local church. So they can claim to "be on the right ground", but if we look at their idolizing of Lee and their covering up sins of their own accord, we can say with certainty that God's glory doesn't remain in that "temple".