Things Learned from LGBTQ+ Discussions

[SerenityLives]

Consider this article.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/psmag.c...-homosexuality

If Jesus were alive walking on the earth today, I bet he wouldnt like how some Christians are acting towards the lgbtq. He would sit and talk to them.

[Sons to Glory!]

Originally Posted by SerenityLives

Consider this article.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/psmag.c...-homosexuality

If Jesus were alive walking on the earth today, I bet he wouldnt like how some Christians are acting towards the lgbtq. He would sit and talk to them.

Absolutely!

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by SerenityLives

If Jesus were alive walking on the earth today, I bet he wouldnt like how some Christians are acting towards the lgbtq. He would sit and talk to them.

And what would Jesus say to your LGBTQ comrades about how they treat God and His children?

And on another front, did you know that the much aligned Trump has done more to protect the LGBTQ around the world than any other Prez in history?

[SerenityLives]

Originally Posted by Ohio

And what would Jesus say to your LGBTQ comrades about how they treat God and His children?

And on another front, did you know that the much aligned Trump has done more to protect the LGBTQ around the world than any other Prez in history?

For your first question, you tell me. What have I done to you all?? my friends have done nothing wrong except leave Christianity. Is that what you mean?

For your second, lets not mix politics in this thread. I wrote “some Christians”, not all Christians, so pres trump could be the alleged exception. Under Obama, same sex marriage became law. But maybe you can let me know too about that.
I dont know what kool aid you’re drinking.

https://www.hrc.org/news/the-list-of...gbtq-community

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by SerenityLives

For your first question, you tell me. What have I done to you all?? my friends have done nothing wrong except leave Christianity. Is that what you mean?

For your second, lets not mix politics in this thread. I wrote “some Christians”, not all Christians, so pres trump could be the alleged exception. Under Obama, same sex marriage became law. But maybe you can let me know too about that.
I dont know what kool aid you’re drinking.

Serenity, when you said "some" Christians, then I replied about "some" LGBT. Is that not fair? Your comment did not directly imply me or my behavior, nor did my comment imply you or your behavior. Wasn't I just being fair? Did not I just provide a counter to provide balance?

But this has always been the case with this Alt-Views forum, especially with awareness. And since this thread was started by STG, don't I have a little more liberty here than on your own thread? awareness would often dig up misbehavior done by Christians (really unbelieving, but dogmatic Catholics) a thousand years ago in order to discredit Christians of all time (e.g. flat earthers). That's why many here think he is perhaps 49.94% troll. I don't think using one bad example to mischaracterize the whole is fair. Do you?

But I have not stooped so low as to accuse you of "drinking Kool-Aid." And since this thread is about what we have learned, how can you demand that I not mention in passing something about I have learned about Trump's support for LGBTQ? How can that be fair to me? And should I not mention how Obama for years has flip-flopped on the issue for his own political expediency? Just because Obama signed it into law doesn't mean that he should take credit for it. He never exhibited political courage over the matter.

[SerenityLives]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Serenity, when you said "some" Christians, then I replied about "some" LGBT. Is that not fair? Your comment did not directly imply me or my behavior, nor did my comment imply you or your behavior. Wasn't I just being fair? Did not I just provide a counter to provide balance?

But this has always been the case with this Alt-Views forum, especially with awareness. And since this thread was started by STG, don't I have a little more liberty here than on your own thread? awareness would often dig up misbehavior done by Christians (really unbelieving, but dogmatic Catholics) a thousand years ago in order to discredit Christians of all time (e.g. flat earthers). That's why many here think he is perhaps 49.94% troll. I don't think using one bad example to mischaracterize the whole is fair. Do you?

But I have not stooped so low as to accuse you of "drinking Kool-Aid." And since this thread is about what we have learned, how can you demand that I not mention in passing something about I have learned about Trump's support for LGBTQ? How can that be fair to me? And should I not mention how Obama for years has flip-flopped on the issue for his own political expediency? Just because Obama signed it into law doesn't mean that he should take credit for it. He never exhibited political courage over the matter.

you said your “lgbtq comrades treat God and His children”, not “some of his children”. And Im a child of God. It seems like you imply that all my “comrades” are not God’s children as well

And just following the precedent that UntoHim put regarding not involving politics on this thread, but we will let StG and Untohim decide. My view is that Trump flip flops a lot too. My point is Trump didnt sign anything into law that wasnt there already. You didnt answer either of my questions.

You and StG call Awareness high on smoking something and a trollso isnt it fair to say you guys are on some kool aid?

[awareness]

Originally Posted by SerenityLives

you said your “lgbtq comrades treat God and His children”, not “some of his children”. And Im a child of God. It seems like you imply that all my “comrades” are not God’s children as well

And just following the precedent that UntoHim put regarding not involving politics on this thread, but we will let StG and Untohim decide. My view is that Trump flip flops a lot too. My point is Trump didnt sign anything into law that wasnt there already. You didnt answer either of my questions.

You and StG call Awareness high on smoking something and a trollso isnt it fair to say you guys are on some kool aid?

I confess. I've been trolling bro Ohio for at least 15 years. Cuz he loves me. That's why he makes me the topic of every thread.

[SerenityLives]

Originally Posted by awareness

I confess. I've been trolling bro Ohio for at least 15 years. Cuz he loves me. That's why he makes me the topic of every thread.

You guys sure have some weird love dynamic going on, being gay for each other.. seriously sometimes you two bicker like an old couple I feel like I need to send you two to couples counseling.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by SerenityLives

And just following the precedent that UntoHim put regarding not involving politics on this thread, but we will let StG and Untohim decide.

There is no precedent from UntoHim about politics on this thread, only a warning to awareness about using actual names.

Perhaps what we really need are a team of fact-checking editors for many of the posters here.

[Sons to Glory!]

Originally Posted by SerenityLives

my friends have done nothing wrong except leave Christianity.

Quick comment regarding this - my hope is they haven't left Christ Himself! (to me, "Christianity" can imply the system)

Regarding politics on this thread, I don't mind up to a point where it stops being substantive and blatantly disrespectful. I have seen Ohio and awareness go down a political rabbit hole with each other many times! On one hand it's sorta amusing, but . . .

[SerenityLives]

Originally Posted by Sons to Glory!

Quick comment regarding this - my hope is they haven't left Christ Himself! (to me, "Christianity" can imply the system

Yes I mean the politics on the previous thread/ my thread, there was a warning. But we can have some on here; I just think it needs to be controlled because it doesnt add much to the topic and can lead to bickering. And there’s a lot of politics thread on Alt views.

Most lgbtq I know havent left God and Christ Himself and still consider themselves Christian, but they have left their denominations/Christianity. There are quite a few who have became just “spiritual” (thats how they label their beliefs at the moment)

[awareness]

Politics is muddy and dirty. LGBTQ is clean.

[Sons to Glory!]

Originally Posted by awareness

Politics is muddy and dirty. LGBTQ is clean.

First sentence is true. Second sentence is trolling.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by awareness

Politics is muddy and dirty. LGBTQ is clean.

This is simply your sentiment. Many of the comments on these LGBT threads made me cringe. But I'm a prude right? And you have been progressively "enlightened," eh?

Andrew Breitbart once made a famous saying that "politics is downstream from culture." In other words politics merely follows the filth of culture, whether academia, media, entertainment, music, sports, etc., and LGBT is at the forefront of that culture.

[Weighingin]

Originally Posted by SerenityLives

Yes I mean the politics on the previous thread/ my thread, there was a warning. But we can have some on here; I just think it needs to be controlled because it doesnt add much to the topic and can lead to bickering. And there’s a lot of politics thread on Alt views.

Most lgbtq I know havent left God and Christ Himself and still consider themselves Christian, but they have left their denominations/Christianity. There are quite a few who have became just “spiritual” (thats how they label their beliefs at the moment)

Often when people leave a Christian organization or system, whether they’re this or that, they no longer trust any organized group with its leadership. Yet they still love the Lord, they talk or fellowship with Him, and can bring all to Hin.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Weighingin

Often when people leave a Christian organization or system, whether they’re this or that, they no longer trust any organized group with its leadership. Yet they still love the Lord, they talk or fellowship with Him, and can bring all to Hin.

That's a true statement. Thanks for the clarity.

[SerenityLives]

Originally Posted by Weighingin

Often when people leave a Christian organization or system, whether they’re this or that, they no longer trust any organized group with its leadership. Yet they still love the Lord, they talk or fellowship with Him, and can bring all to Hin.

I find that it is often more important for the individual’s walk with God, regardless of whether they are in an organization or not. As long as two or more are gathered, Jesus is in our midst. And I find this thread similar to that, since we are gathering together virtually I think thi entire forum is like a church in it of itself, with believers from all places and situations gathered together

[awareness]

Originally Posted by SerenityLives

Consider this article.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/psmag.c...-homosexuality

If Jesus were alive walking on the earth today, I bet he wouldnt like how some Christians are acting towards the lgbtq. He would sit and talk to them.

I was moved by the opening line :

"Christians need to accept that Jesus was sometimes wrong—in fact, he might even want us to."

. . . as I've felt the Spirit has been "teaching me all things" since leaving the local church, even teaching me about the false depictions of God in the Bible.