Things Learned from LGBTQ+ Discussions

[Sons to Glory!]

Originally Posted by SerenityLives

with one caveat, with original sin able to enter.

God created and man and women with ability to get original sin, then he drowned the world for sinning, then He impregnated a woman with himself, so he can be born, then he had himself killed to save us all from the sin he gave us in the first place. no capiche

Look, folks, none of it works if we don't have free choice. Of course, God could create perfectly functioning robots that always make the right choices, but would He receive real love without free will? Of course not.

Just because our widdle minds can't wrap around all this, doesn't mean it's not so. If we understood it all perfectly, then we'd be God. We're not - He is. Stop blaming God for our shortcomings.

[SerenityLives]

Originally Posted by Sons to Glory!

Look, folks, none of it works if we don't have free choice. Of course, God could create perfectly functioning robots that always make the right choices, but would He receive real love without free will? Of course not.

Just because our widdle minds can't wrap around all this, doesn't mean it's not so. If we understood it all perfectly, then we'd be God. We're not - He is. Stop blaming God for our shortcomings.

I thought previously someone (I’m not sure if it was you) who mentioned that God didnt have needs, and therefore didnt need man to love Him. Oh yes, the other thread where I brought up that God was lonely and needed love, and then someone refuted saying God doesnt need love, he gives us love.

So yes I get it, the serpent lied to Eve about “becoming like God” , he meant it to a certain degree. But was it completely free will with the serpent’s influence? Without the serpent, the entire world would have went the other way. Free will doesnt exist in a vacuum. Our choices are defined by factors that are available to us at each moment each day.

Btw I’m still having a hard time buying the whole corporate man explanation. If I came across a talking snake, I would’ve run away in the opposite direction as fast as I could before I really understood what it was saying. I’m really scared of snakes.. unless God didnt design Adam and Eve with the foght or flight response. But I wasnt Eve.. she might have been curious like a child. You know how children are, they believe everything you tell them and they remember the last thing you tell them. Same with Eve’s encounter with the serpent.