Things Learned from LGBTQ+ Discussions

[Sons to Glory!]

Originally Posted by Trapped

Romans 5:15-19
15 But the gift is not like the trespass. For if the many died by the trespass of the one man, how much more did God’s grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, abound to the many!
16 Again, the gift is not like the result of the one man’s sin: The judgment that followed one sin brought condemnation, but the gift that followed many trespasses brought justification.
17 For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive an abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ!
18 So then, just as one trespass brought condemnation for all men, so also one act of righteousness brought justification and life for all men.
19 For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.

Romans 5 agrees with your statement that it's about the disobedience, the sin, the trespass, the act. Everything truly happened because of the disobedience. Sin is in us because of the act of disobedience of Adam and Eve. Death reigns because it's the punishment for sin and we all sin.

Other verses (also in Romans I think?) talk of SIN dwelling in us. Sin came in through the sinful act of disobedience. There is never a mention of any kind of element or poison or substance that entered from the tree. Not one.

It's a shift of some neurological pathways that have believed for so long that it's something external, some element, something from the tree that "got in", but the support for it is an echoing silence in scripture.

Thanks for that - a compelling argument from scripture! Again, something to consider and pray about. As is probably your experience, sometimes I get the answer pretty quickly, and other times it takes awhile - oftentimes a verse that comes my way in reading or fellowship, or sometimes "out of the blue." But I still wonder about the eating aspect . . . (was that just happenstance? I doubt it)

So to tie back to the LGBTQ+ main topic; if sin came in through the one act of disobedience, that's the source of all the things of the flesh, including gayness.