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Old 10-16-2020, 06:21 PM   #1
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If you think you have 2 spirits who are you, then that's a problem.
Spirits can't control me. Besides, haven't you heard, keep your friends close, and your enemies closer?
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Spirits can't control me. Besides, haven't you heard, keep your friends close, and your enemies closer?
Is that in the Bible?
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Is that in the Bible?
Only by inference. Does the Bible tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth for all times, and everything?
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Only by inference. Does the Bible tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth for all times, and everything?
A few of us had a little discussion around this topic this morning, at Saturday church maintenance. One of the six sharing bros said he was thinking of bringing the question up in a couple weeks when he is scheduled to speak, about how do we know the Bible is the word of God?

Some Christians seem to believe it basically is the word of God, until there's a passage they disagree with or don't understand well - then it was probably just written by some uninspired man . . .
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A few of us had a little discussion around this topic this morning, at Saturday church maintenance. One of the six sharing bros said he was thinking of bringing the question up in a couple weeks when he is scheduled to speak, about how do we know the Bible is the word of God?

Some Christians seem to believe it basically is the word of God, until there's a passage they disagree with or don't understand well - then it was probably just written by some uninspired man . . .
So what do YOU think?
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So what do YOU think?
Bible = Word of God.
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A few of us had a little discussion around this topic this morning, at Saturday church maintenance. One of the six sharing bros said he was thinking of bringing the question up in a couple weeks when he is scheduled to speak, about how do we know the Bible is the word of God?

Some Christians seem to believe it basically is the word of God, until there's a passage they disagree with or don't understand well - then it was probably just written by some uninspired man . . .
This didn't answer my question. No biggie. It was a silly question. Of course the Bible doesn't tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, for all times, and everything. The Bible didn't even know about the internet, and so, so, so, much, much, much, more.
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This didn't answer my question. No biggie. It was a silly question. Of course the Bible doesn't tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, for all times, and everything. The Bible didn't even know about the internet, and so, so, so, much, much, much, more.
The physical Bible itself is just a static book, letters on a page, with no intelligence of its own. Yes, some worship it like is an idol and like it will give them all the answers to everything. It's only when one contacts its Author that everything springs to life. The message really is not to try and do the things in this book, it's to let the Author live in and through us, and let Him bring those words to life!
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The physical Bible itself is just a static book, letters on a page, with no intelligence of its own. Yes, some worship it like is an idol and like it will give them all the answers to everything. It's only when one contacts its Author that everything springs to life. The message really is not to try and do the things in this book, it's to let the Author live in and through us, and let Him bring those words to life!
Author(s), due to many things new under the sun, has to speak differently then He, or they, spoke 3 and 2 thousand years ago.

And that includes to the LGBTQ community members.
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Only by inference. Does the Bible tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth for all times, and everything?
Dumbest question I ever heard!

Did you expect today's weather and instructions for IKEA bookshelves?

You have lost all credibility.
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Dumbest question I ever heard!

Did you expect today's weather and instructions for IKEA bookshelves?

You have lost all credibility.
Why thanks bro Ohio. You got my point.
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Is that in the Bible?
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Out of the blue, David starts asking if anyone of the house of Saul has survived. He'd like to do them some kindness, for the sake of Jonathan. Jonathan's crippled son, Mephibosheth, is brought to David, by a former servant of Saul. And... David is extremely kind, giving him all that had formerly belonged to his grandfather, including the former servant of Saul to work the land. David will ensure that Mephibosheth is cared for all the days of his life.

So why do I question David's motives by implying that this chapter is about keeping our enemies close? There is nothing particular in this chapter that implies it - except that - the servant Ziba was Saul's servant. Except that - Mephibosheth is the grandson of the former king, who for years had pursued David and wanted his death. Yes, Jonathan loved David. But, this is Jonathan's son and Saul's grandson. Who can say where Mephibosheth's loyalties will lie? What about Ziba's loyalties? And... if they are not with David, maybe David will win them over with his generosity and kindness. It is good to keep those who are potential enemies close beside you so that you will know what they are doing. Strategies... of politics and war.

Keep your friends close and your enemies closer... Be kind to each of them.

Proverbs 25:21-22

"If your enemy is hungry, give him food to eat;
if he is thirsty, give him water to drink.
In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head,
and the Lord will reward you."

And who can tell, by your kindness, just maybe your enemy will become your true friend.

And Jesus told us to: "Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you." (Matt 5:44)
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Out of the blue, David starts asking if anyone of the house of Saul has survived. He'd like to do them some kindness, for the sake of Jonathan. Jonathan's crippled son, Mephibosheth, is brought to David, by a former servant of Saul. And... David is extremely kind, giving him all that had formerly belonged to his grandfather, including the former servant of Saul to work the land. David will ensure that Mephibosheth is cared for all the days of his life.

So why do I question David's motives by implying that this chapter is about keeping our enemies close? There is nothing particular in this chapter that implies it - except that - the servant Ziba was Saul's servant. Except that - Mephibosheth is the grandson of the former king, who for years had pursued David and wanted his death. Yes, Jonathan loved David. But, this is Jonathan's son and Saul's grandson. Who can say where Mephibosheth's loyalties will lie? What about Ziba's loyalties? And... if they are not with David, maybe David will win them over with his generosity and kindness. It is good to keep those who are potential enemies close beside you so that you will know what they are doing. Strategies... of politics and war.

Keep your friends close and your enemies closer... Be kind to each of them.

Proverbs 25:21-22

"If your enemy is hungry, give him food to eat;
if he is thirsty, give him water to drink.
In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head,
and the Lord will reward you."

And who can tell, by your kindness, just maybe your enemy will become your true friend.

And Jesus told us to: "Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you." (Matt 5:44)
Good post. Keep your friends close and enemies closer is not a quote in the Bible. But as you've pointed out here, it is covered and addressed.
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