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Old 10-15-2020, 09:51 AM   #1
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Well that was an entertaining dance. But since you can chose, you are bi. Just admit it. It will be therapeutic and cathartic. Come out brother, come out. Be what God made you.
Well there's been no talk on here of trisexuals - they'll try anything!
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Old 10-15-2020, 12:48 PM   #2
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Well there's been no talk on here of trisexuals - they'll try anything!
Maybe you're thinking of Pansexuality :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pansexuality
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Maybe you're thinking of Pansexuality :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pansexuality
Oh boy, and with that we may have exhausted this topic . . .

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Oh boy, and with that we may have exhausted this topic . . .

In the words of the Doris Day song: Que Sera, Sera!
I’ve never heard of the term trisexuals but pansexual yes. You guys are all too funny. I feel like this thread has become a meme. but hey life’s too short to be labeling everything as conservative or progressive. We’re all in this together.
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Oh boy, and with that we may have exhausted this topic . . .

In the words of the Doris Day song: Que Sera, Sera!
It's your thread, do whatever you want.

But we haven't even exhausted the question of choice. As Serenity pointed out, that's the basis of Conversion therapy. It's an easy fix : Just teach 'em to make better choices.

But we haven't answered why it has to be a choice yet. There's lots in life that's not a choice. We didn't, for example, chose what gender we're born with.

It's my contention that there's a whole bundle of tweaks that hitch along, like same sex attraction ... that some can't help, any more than they could help with who and what they are at birth.

But why do some have to believe it's a choice?

Why does sexuality have to be a choice?
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It's your thread, do whatever you want.

But we haven't even exhausted the question of choice. As Serenity pointed out, that's the basis of Conversion therapy. It's an easy fix : Just teach 'em to make better choices.

But we haven't answered why it has to be a choice yet. There's lots in life that's not a choice. We didn't, for example, chose what gender we're born with.

It's my contention that there's a whole bundle of tweaks that hitch along, like same sex attraction ... that some can't help, any more than they could help with who and what they are at birth.

But why do some have to believe it's a choice?

Why does sexuality have to be a choice?
It's simple: Something went haywire along the line called the 1st Adam. God's solution for the only thing that fixes Adam? The cross and the Last Adam.
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It's simple: Something went haywire along the line called the 1st Adam. God's solution for the only thing that fixes Adam? The cross and the Last Adam.
So what is the fix? If a gay person accepts Jesus, is his gayness then fixed?
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So what is the fix? If a gay person accepts Jesus, is his gayness then fixed?
Once a brother and I talked to a brother. He told us when he got saved, he felt the Lord was telling him he isn’t gay. When he told his liberal family in CA about accepting Jesus, etc they threw him out.
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So what is the fix? If a gay person accepts Jesus, is his gayness then fixed?
I'll just tell you according to what happened to me. Before I was saved at age 18, I was really into smoking pot, drinking and partying and did a lot of experimentation with many other drugs - I got quite into the dark side of things (winding up in jail and even briefly the state mental institution). It was 1974 and I was sort of a wanabe hippie and bought into all the rhetoric - peace, love, drugs & rock & roll. When I cried out to Him in desperation one night and He saved me wondrously, I had a voice inside telling me over and over, "I is dead."

I didn't know exactly what "I is dead" meant, but I felt joyous repeating it out loud. I was in wonderful 1-on-1 communication and love with the God of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob (the Anointing spoke these names to me too). And one thing I found out rather quickly, was that the joy of pot smoking had simply been taken away --> when I tried it at one point, it didn't have the euphoric effect I had previously loved so much. In fact, it just made me depressed and paranoid. I knew that this part of me had died and just wasn't there. The real me wanted to be with those that loved Him the way I did, and I prayed He take me to be with them. He did, and that's how I was brought miraculously to the LC in Berkeley over 2000 miles away within a week's time. My new life had begun.

Now, in the time since, the flesh does try to rise up and say I'm still that old person and I should do this and that, but I know it's really a lie - there's little satisfaction in those things. Some things were very apparent that they were part of the old me that had died, like smoking pot. God was quite wise in taking pot from me in a strong and instant way, as it was certainly a gateway to other ruinous behaviors. Many other things from my old life are taking longer for me to realize the fact that yes indeed, those things were part of the old (crucified) me. When I identify and act according to my new life that's hidden in Him, then I have life, peace, joy and clarity; when I identify and act according to my old life, I experience basically none of those good things. But that's all part of the grand experiment of life - progressively finding out what He's already done and made me to be, and what is real and profitable and pleasing to Him!

My old man has been crucified with Him,
With all its foul corruption deep within;
And buried too its nature serpentine,
Completely finished—this great fact is mine,
I hold it fast.

But there’s a Person in my spirit now,
Born as a babe so small, so weak, so low;
Who by the Word’s pure milk will grow to be
The overcoming inner man in me
To gain my heart.

Christ as my Person must possess my heart
And be preeminent in every part.
The former owner died but haunts it still.
O Lord, move in; my mind, emotion, will

Now welcome Thee.


"Work out your salvation with fear and trembling;
for it is God Who operates in you both the willing and the working for His good pleasure!"


Philippians 2:12-13
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