Things Learned from LGBTQ+ Discussions

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by awareness

True. To my surprise, more people consider suicide than I thought. Then I joined a suicide hotline. That was not a happy time. I've never had that problem. Maybe you just don't know gays personally well enough to considered it. And I didn't say Christian, I said religious.

Religion of all types are hard on gays. Our sister Serenity, for example, grew up in the LC. Coming out there, or being shoved out, would be such a hard psychological impact, I can't see how suicidal considerations wouldn't come to be a serious resolution.

Is there only enough religion in the world to make us hate each other, but not enough for us the love each other? Do we have to hate a group? Any group? . . . and a new one, when its for whatever reason no longer a hateable group? Is that why our gods hate?

Blacks were a easy group to hate. They're color coded. But that's no longer socially acceptable. Right now, it's gays. And socially caused dejection, of any kind, will bring suicide to the surface of any nervous system.

And pro-lifers should be concerned.

I disagree with many of your claims.

I don't think we should lump all *religious people* together. The LC is far more archaic and bigoted than the general Christian public. It bothers me to see all the criticisms against the US in the 21st Century. LGBTQ have the right to marry, and with hate crimes legislation, their lives are more valuable, and Ambassador Rick Grenell said Trump is the most gay-friendly president ever. All the LGBTQ community has to do is visit the many Communist countries or Muslim countries, and they will quickly gain a renewed appreciation for the many perks and liberties our great country has to offer them.

Who hates groups? Let's be honest here in the 21st century America. No one is targeting Blacks, Gays, or the Special Needs. There is, however, one group of people who daily are at risk. Who are regularly targeted for extinction. Who die because of somebody else's "rights" and conveniences. Who alone these days need our protection. That would be, of course, the unborn. Sorry, but this is absolutely true.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Ohio

That would be, of course, the unborn. Sorry, but this is absolutely true.

The problem of the unborn is that some of them are gay.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by awareness

The problem of the unborn is that some of them are gay.

Huh? Is that some sick joke?

Some are women. Some are black. Some are Hispanic.

But all deserve to LIVE! Don't they?

And until you begin to support the unborn, those most innocent and defenseless, every one of them absolute victims in every regard, then your passion for the other hurting folks is just fake. And hypocritical.

[SerenityLives]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Huh? Is that some sick joke?

Some are women. Some are black. Some are Hispanic.

But all deserve to LIVE! Don't they?

And until you begin to support the unborn, those most innocent and defenseless, every one of them absolute victims in every regard, then your passion for the other hurting folks is just fake. And hypocritical.

I think awareness meant this as sarcasm

[awareness]

Originally Posted by SerenityLives

I think awareness meant this as sarcasm

Yes and No. I think it was more about the irony of pro-lifers caring about the unborn gays before birth but not so much after birth.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by awareness

Yes and No. I think it was more about the irony of pro-lifers caring about the unborn gays before birth but not so much after birth.

This is a bigoted statement categorizing all pro-life people as anti-gay.

[SerenityLives]

Originally Posted by Ohio

This is a bigoted statement categorizing all pro-life people as anti-gay.

Awareness and Ohio, I think we should get back to discussing LGBTQ. We can all start a thread on abortion if you’d like but I realize we keep going off on tangents. StG, what do you think?

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Huh? Is that some sick joke?

Some are women. Some are black. Some are Hispanic.

But all deserve to LIVE! Don't they?

And until you begin to support the unborn, those most innocent and defenseless, every one of them absolute victims in every regard, then your passion for the other hurting folks is just fake. And hypocritical.

I found it smart to support the woman ... regardless of her choice. But that's just me. To each his or her own. Force is not conducive to a happy healthy relationship, gay, straight, or otherwise.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by awareness

I found it smart to support the woman ... regardless of her choice. But that's just me. To each his or her own. Force is not conducive to a happy healthy relationship, gay, straight, or otherwise.

I support women too, and not just the ones you mentioned, but I also support the unborn women.

How can we support the women who's "rights" or her "choice" includes the murder of others?

Isn't that the same as a KKK white supremacist who says he has the "right" and the "choice" to live in a community without blacks?

And isn't that the same as a bigoted homophobe who claims to have the "right" and the "choice" to live in a straight community without LGBT?

Don't you think that the time has finally come to end all so-called civil rights and personal choices which in any way damage the life of another?

[SerenityLives]

Originally Posted by Ohio

I disagree with many of your claims LGBTQ have the right to marry, and with hate crimes legislation, their lives are more valuable, and Ambassador Rick Grenell said Trump is the most gay-friendly president ever. All the LGBTQ community has to do is visit the many Communist countries or Muslim countries, and they will quickly gain a renewed appreciation for the many perks and liberties our great country has to offer them.

Why did the Trump administration take off lgbtq content from the federal websites when Trump became president? It took a long time for the US to accept gay marriage, behind several countries actually. The Obama administration, not the Trump administration, Ruth Ginsburg made same sex marriage legal. that was only a few years ago. Consider this article regarding medical rights that target lgbtq: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usa...amp/1130907001

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by SerenityLives

Why did the Trump administration take off lgbtq content from the federal websites when Trump became president? It took a long time for the US to accept gay marriage, behind several countries actually. The Obama administration, not the Trump administration, Ruth Ginsburg made same sex marriage legal. that was only a few years ago. Consider this article regarding medical rights that target lgbtq: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usa...amp/1130907001

That article is about protecting religious liberties. Log Cabin Republicans and OUTspoken point to how much Trump has done to support them.

There are millions of articles out there against Trump. It's all political. You can find an article on google to say anything you want.

[SerenityLives]

Originally Posted by Ohio

That article is about protecting religious liberties. Log Cabin Republicans and OUTspoken point to how much Trump has done to support them.

There are millions of articles out there against Trump. It's all political. You can find an article on google to say anything you want.

But you cannot ignore the fact hat the lgbtq website disappeared overnight among the federal ones.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by SerenityLives

But you cannot ignore the fact hat the lgbtq website disappeared overnight among the federal ones.

Websites, twitter accounts, news blurbs, etc. constantly disappear overnight. Doesn't sound like a nefarious plot.