Things Learned from LGBTQ+ Discussions

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Sons to Glory!

I concur, although I wouldn't have said it quite like that perhaps. The "clobbering" thing, to me, is like pulling out the hate or race card - effective communication and everything comes to a screeching halt when those StrawMan cards are played, and people are then prone to respond in a defensive way - this tactic is childish in my book. (almost akin to name calling)

I haven't seen bashing of LGBTQ+ folks on this thread or the last one. Just because many of us understand our Bibles to say that homosexuality is one of those off-the-mark things is not clobbering!

There's 13 verses in 1 Corinthians 13. Over twice as many as there is so called clobber verses in the entire Bible. We'd do best to stick to the 13.

[Sons to Glory!]

Originally Posted by awareness

There's 13 verses in 1 Corinthians 13. Over twice as many as there is so called clobber verses in the entire Bible. We'd do best to stick to the 13.

Sure. Love. Correct. Doesn't mean there's not sin. Mentioning sin doesn't = so called clobbering. The Bible speaks to us in love. But if someone doesn't see a thing they are doing is off the mark, it's technically above my pay grade to show them -- other than show them the Word concerning it (and which would maybe save them).

But I guess the "facts" are in dispute, just like the Word of God and that God is love (i.e., "Trickster"). A complex system can be built up around anything to justify doing it, because it feels good to us to do it and our heart tells us it's OK . . .

Think I'll go get drunk and commit adultery ----> and then work on the complex theology to justify it later! (and yer job is just love me and agree that what I'm doing is all okay)

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Sons to Glory!

Sure. Love. Correct. Doesn't mean there's not sin. Mentioning sin doesn't = so called clobbering. The Bible speaks to us in love. But if someone doesn't see a thing they are doing is off the mark, it's technically above my pay grade to show them -- other than show them the Word concerning it (and which would maybe save them).

But I guess the "facts" are in dispute, just like the Word of God and that God is love (i.e., "Trickster"). A complex system can be built up around anything to justify doing it, because it feels good to us to do it and our heart tells us it's OK . . .

Think I'll go get drunk and commit adultery ----> and then work on the complex theology to justify it later! (and yer job is just love me and agree that what I'm doing is all okay)

You hint doing no such thing. You just set up a straw clobber man. And we still love you.

[Sons to Glory!]

Originally Posted by awareness

You hint doing no such thing. You just set up a straw clobber man. And we still love you.

Thank you.