Things Learned from LGBTQ+ Discussions

[SerenityLives]

Originally Posted by Trapped

Nice dodge of the question. My question to you still stands.

I'll respond about arsenokoitai a little later when I have more time.

I was merely pointing out the policability of the verses you use to lead up to your questions. I’m not a bible literalist and the bible literalists in here only think the only Christians are Christians who look and think like them.

So no, I have different points of view on each of your questions

[Trapped]

Originally Posted by SerenityLives

I was merely pointing out the policability of the verses you use to lead up to your questions. I’m not a bible literalist and the bible literalists in here only think the only Christians are Christians who look and think like them.

So no, I have different points of view on each of your questions

Is that a roundabout way of saying that you think committed heterosexuals living together and having sex, but not being married.....is fine and is not a sin?

[Sons to Glory!]

Originally Posted by SerenityLives

I was merely pointing out the policability of the verses you use to lead up to your questions. I’m not a bible literalist and the bible literalists in here only think the only Christians are Christians who look and think like them.

Ahh, well no. So let's define what a Christian is. Simply defined, it's someone who has Christ living in them, right?

Someone with Christ living in them can think and do all sorts of things - in fact, they can behave just like unbelievers and do everything unbelievers do. In other words, a child of God can go into a far country, waste their substance on riotous living and sleep with the hogs in despair. But they're still a child of the King and Father still loves them!

I think this forum, and specifically this thread, points to the fact that we're all over the proverbial map when it comes to how we take scripture.

(and someone can do all the things according to the law and be a very good person, but without Christ living in them, they are not a child of God and are lost)

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Sons to Glory!

I think this forum, and specifically this thread, points to the fact that we're all over the proverbial map when it comes to how we take scripture.

What? Me? I resemble that remark.

Ya know Trapped, Ohio, and others, Serenity makes a valid point. In short, we weren't back there. And we don't have a clue of what it was like. It was a whole other world back then. They were flat earthers. They couldn't help it.

Our modern scientific age is a universe apart with how they lived and thought back then. Their mindset was beyond our ability to even imagine. For one, superstition was prevalent virtually everywhere back then. It was the common way to think. It couldn't be helped. Yet they were smart, as proven by their writings, many that are full of out of this world fantastical stories.

I point that out because they back then had minds far and away from ours today.

So we shouldn't be so certain about what Paul says, to the point of clobbering anyone with his verses. I think if we're gonna stick to Paul, we should read 1 Corinthians 13 over and over again. Otherwise we risk just being a clanging cymbal ... and be stuck thinking like a child.

[Sons to Glory!]

Originally Posted by awareness

Ya know Trapped, Ohio, and others, Serenity makes a valid point. In short, we weren't back there. And we don't have a clue of what it was like. It was a whole other world back then. They were flat earthers. They couldn't help it.

This presupposes that the Bible was written only by men and without divine inspiration and help, and couldn't possibly know with clarity man's real nature and what manifestations of the flesh would like like in the future . . . (because God can surely knows it and see the end from the beginning, right?)