LGBTQ, in LC and Beyond.

Sons to Glory! · 10-05-2020, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by UntoHim

Moderator Note:

The past number of posts were moved off the open forum. I think that they were an insult to SerenityLives. She deserves better, and the treatment of this subject deserves better. Let's keep politics out of this thread...isn't it controversial enough without throwing that extra gas on the fire?

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But my post that was taken off from earlier today, had nothing to do with politics! (Ohio & awareness were at it again, and I got lumped in there I think . . .)

Trapped · 10-05-2020, 05:21 PM

I've been silent because I have no idea what's happening and don't want to waste time if things are going to be removed from the site or prevented from further discussion, which is antithetical to this whole site. I have plenty to say about the articles and claims that were made towards the end of last week, but where is the place to put those responses? Here seems logical since that's where the articles were posted. If SerenityLives is not going to be visiting (which I wish she would stick around) then I don't understand the issue with letting it continue - no one is forcing anyone to read it, and it's not like thousands of other discussions on the topic aren't all over the internet, and those are allowed to exist. However, StG's thread is more tolerant but yet it wouldn't be "things I've learned", but just a continuation of what keeps threatening to be cut off. Can we get some kind of final word on what's happening?

SerenityLives · 10-05-2020, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Trapped

I've been silent because I have no idea what's happening and don't want to waste time if things are going to be removed from the site or prevented from further discussion, which is antithetical to this whole site. I have plenty to say about the articles and claims that were made towards the end of last week, but where is the place to put those responses? Here seems logical since that's where the articles were posted. If SerenityLives is not going to be visiting (which I wish she would stick around) then I don't understand the issue with letting it continue - no one is forcing anyone to read it, and it's not like thousands of other discussions on the topic aren't all over the internet, and those are allowed to exist. However, StG's thread is more tolerant but yet it wouldn't be "things I've learned", but just a continuation of what keeps threatening to be cut off. Can we get some kind of final word on what's happening?

I understand the frustrations of everyone on here but I am at my emotional capacity to deal with anymore of this right now. We can continue on Sons of Glory’s thread for more political issues or biblical interpretations. I originally intended for this thread to be a space for anyone who were lgbtq church kids or family members with relatives identifying as lgbtq to share their experiences. Sorry if I wasnt clear on that. No one is forcing anyone to read this , yes, but I know for a fact that lgbtq church kids who are planning to leave the church will linger on here, since UntoHim’s website is unique and one of the few that exist for ex local church members. Thats why I wanted to end this thread on a good note and close this thread for being clean for those church kids. The other thread can be for more controversial topics related to being lgbtq and Christian in general.

awareness · 10-05-2020, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SerenityLives

I understand the frustrations of everyone on here but I am at my emotional capacity to deal with anymore of this right now. We can continue on Sons of Glory’s thread for more political issues or biblical interpretations. I originally intended for this thread to be a space for anyone who were lgbtq church kids or family members with relatives identifying as lgbtq to share their experiences. Sorry if I wasnt clear on that. No one is forcing anyone to read this , yes, but I know for a fact that lgbtq church kids who are planning to leave the church will linger on here, since UntoHim’s website is unique and one of the few that exist for ex local church members. Thats why I wanted to end this thread on a good note and close this thread for being clean for those church kids. The other thread can be for more controversial topics related to being lgbtq and Christian in general.

I'm with SerenityLives.

UntoHim · 10-05-2020, 09:13 PM

Ok Serenity, your wish is my command.

Where do you want to end this thread. Maybe back on your last post describing what happened with your parents. That would be a good ending!

Let me know here on the thread. I don't want everyone to know that you are the one closing out the thread and where you want to end it.

Thanks.

UntoHim.
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Trapped · 10-05-2020, 09:48 PM

Just registering my utter frustration. Argh. I'm censoring myself a lot here and not saying most of what I want to unleash.

For anyone reading in the future, please visit the other LGBTQ+ thread started by Sons to Glory! for some continued responses to some of the things posted on this thread. (StG, if that's okay, of course).

UntoHim, can you give the participants some time between when you identify where the closing out will occur and when you actually close it out? What I'm getting at is there are some comments and articles I want to capture first in order to respond to them on the other thread where normal discussion is welcome, and just need a little time to be able to grab them if they will be lost in the closing out.....but I don't want to take the time to go back and copy stuff if the cutoff point won't cut them off. Thanks.

awareness · 10-05-2020, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by UntoHim

Ok Serenity, your wish is my command.

Where do you want to end this thread. Maybe back on your last post describing what happened with your parents. That would be a good ending!

Let me know here on the thread. I don't want everyone to know that you are the one closing out the thread and where you want to end it.

Thanks.

UntoHim.
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He's with Serenity.

awareness · 10-05-2020, 10:02 PM

So how many out here can say "I'm with Serenity?" Cuz if we're with her then, her wish is OUR command, and maybe she'll leave it open for her desired ones, in and out of the LC, to come and find acceptance.

What say ye?

SerenityLives · 10-06-2020, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by UntoHim

Ok Serenity, your wish is my command.

Where do you want to end this thread. Maybe back on your last post describing what happened with your parents. That would be a good ending!

Let me know here on the thread. I don't want everyone to know that you are the one closing out the thread and where you want to end it.

Thanks.

UntoHim.
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I think we can end it with Terry’s response to my parents’ experience. Even with this thread closed, it’s not completely deleted so others like Trapped can still copy and paste the needed discussions and links to the other thread is they want to discuss them further. Thank you all for your participation! I had a good time talking wih you all. I recently got a new job but will comment when I can on StG’s new thread

ExChurchKid · 11-24-2020, 04:28 PM

I'm not sure if this thread ended up being closed or not, and I know I'm late to the party, but I just wanted to add this description of how "men lying with men" in the Bible might actually be a mis-translation of a Greek word (arsenokoitai) that can be more accurately translated "men lying with little boys". I.e., child molestation was an issue in Greek and Roman times, and the writers of the Bible felt it needed to be addressed.

https://um-insight.net/perspectives/...-in-the-bible/

Ohio · 10-05-2020, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Sons to Glory!

But my post that was taken off from earlier today, had nothing to do with politics! (Ohio & awareness were at it again, and I got lumped in there I think . . .)

Why are all the events in our life considered as "politics?"

Why instead don't we outlaw these inflammatory links which awareness loves to post?

awareness · 10-05-2020, 06:16 PM

I'm with SerenityLives.

10-05-2020, 05:21 PM	#2
Trapped Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 1,523	Re: LGBTQ, in LC and Beyond. I've been silent because I have no idea what's happening and don't want to waste time if things are going to be removed from the site or prevented from further discussion, which is antithetical to this whole site. I have plenty to say about the articles and claims that were made towards the end of last week, but where is the place to put those responses? Here seems logical since that's where the articles were posted. If SerenityLives is not going to be visiting (which I wish she would stick around) then I don't understand the issue with letting it continue - no one is forcing anyone to read it, and it's not like thousands of other discussions on the topic aren't all over the internet, and those are allowed to exist. However, StG's thread is more tolerant but yet it wouldn't be "things I've learned", but just a continuation of what keeps threatening to be cut off. Can we get some kind of final word on what's happening?

10-05-2020, 09:13 PM	#5
UntoHim Οὕτως γὰρ ἠγάπησεν ὁ θεὸς τὸν κόσμον For God So Loved The World Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 3,824	Re: LGBTQ, in LC and Beyond. Ok Serenity, your wish is my command. Where do you want to end this thread. Maybe back on your last post describing what happened with your parents. That would be a good ending! Let me know here on the thread. I don't want everyone to know that you are the one closing out the thread and where you want to end it. Thanks. UntoHim. - __________________ αὐτῷ ἡ δόξα καὶ τὸ κράτος εἰς τοὺς αἰῶνας τῶν αἰώνων ἀμήν - 1 Peter 5:11

10-05-2020, 09:48 PM	#6
Trapped Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 1,523	Re: LGBTQ, in LC and Beyond. Just registering my utter frustration. Argh. I'm censoring myself a lot here and not saying most of what I want to unleash. For anyone reading in the future, please visit the other LGBTQ+ thread started by Sons to Glory! for some continued responses to some of the things posted on this thread. (StG, if that's okay, of course). UntoHim, can you give the participants some time between when you identify where the closing out will occur and when you actually close it out? What I'm getting at is there are some comments and articles I want to capture first in order to respond to them on the other thread where normal discussion is welcome, and just need a little time to be able to grab them if they will be lost in the closing out.....but I don't want to take the time to go back and copy stuff if the cutoff point won't cut them off. Thanks.

10-05-2020, 10:02 PM	#8
awareness Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 8,064	Re: LGBTQ, in LC and Beyond. So how many out here can say "I'm with Serenity?" Cuz if we're with her then, her wish is OUR command, and maybe she'll leave it open for her desired ones, in and out of the LC, to come and find acceptance. What say ye? __________________ Cults: My brain will always be there for you. Thinking. So you don't have to. There's a serpent in every paradise.

11-24-2020, 04:28 PM	#10
ExChurchKid Member Join Date: Nov 2020 Posts: 150	Re: LGBTQ, in LC and Beyond. I'm not sure if this thread ended up being closed or not, and I know I'm late to the party, but I just wanted to add this description of how "men lying with men" in the Bible might actually be a mis-translation of a Greek word (arsenokoitai) that can be more accurately translated "men lying with little boys". I.e., child molestation was an issue in Greek and Roman times, and the writers of the Bible felt it needed to be addressed. https://um-insight.net/perspectives/...-in-the-bible/

10-05-2020, 06:16 PM	#12
awareness Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 8,064	Re: LGBTQ, in LC and Beyond. I'm with SerenityLives. __________________ Cults: My brain will always be there for you. Thinking. So you don't have to. There's a serpent in every paradise.