LGBTQ, in LC and Beyond.

[SerenityLives]

Originally Posted by awareness

I typically feel sorry for the underdog.


No. Tell me.

I find it ironic when people start to think it's blasphemy when greeted with views that reveal there are gay people in the bible. Jesus was crucified for "blasphemy". good riddance because that is how pharisees think.

[Trapped]

Originally Posted by SerenityLives

I find it ironic when people start to think it's blasphemy when greeted with views that reveal there are gay people in the bible. Jesus was crucified for "blasphemy". good riddance because that is how pharisees think.

No one is saying there aren't gay people in the Bible. Paul speaks of this in one of his letters, saying "this is what some of you were". There they are in Scripture, right there.

What we are saying, which so far no one has actually addressed other than weak ad hominem claims that don't apply, is that arguments and logic starts crumbling if you try to claim Jesus was gay. We can reasonably infer He wasn't, and if He was, His celibate example doesn't bode well for homosexuals who want to engage in homosexual activity. In two directions that argument fails.

Blasphemy, by the way, is only blasphemy in relation to the truth of the issue. Just as calling a murderer "a murderer" is not slander because it's true, so are Jesus' claims to divinity not blasphemy, because they are true. If you or I made claims to divine origins, that's a problem because it's not true. But if Jesus does, no problem, because it's true. The Pharisees didn't like the truth, and they called that truth blasphemy.

Likewise, for all the logical and rational reasons and arguments I've stated here, it is similarly blasphemy to make the false statements about Jesus and God that are being thrown around here, that I've repeatedly shown to hold no water.

Let me ask anyone reading a question: If living a homosexual lifestyle (I'm not talking about having the feelings, but continually acting on them) was indeed shown to be a sin, would you continue to live according to your same-sex attractions? In other words, if God Himself undeniably visited you and told you without question that acting on the attractions was immoral, would you cease?

This is a simple hypothetical question, and I'm curious how you would answer.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by SerenityLives

I find it ironic when people start to think it's blasphemy when greeted with views that reveal there are gay people in the bible. Jesus was crucified for "blasphemy". good riddance because that is how pharisees think.

It's an emotional heart thing for SoG and Ohio. They have ideals of purity coming down from tradition about Jesus and the Bible.

I think it's caused by seeing only the divine side of the Bible and not the human side of the Bible ; producing such divine idealism that they completely miss the fact the the every book of the Bible were written by human hands, thinking rather, that it was written by God's hands ... like God actually has hands.

I think it boils down to ignorance of the formations of the Bible, and its compilation. An ignorance that's likely going to stick with them until the grave, unfortunately. Cuz, they're very happy in their ignorance, and will likely proudly tell you so.