The Change in Nature of the Lord's Recovery

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by UntoHim

Well, I thought I might provide my own explanation. Is that ok with you, brother Ohio?

Why sure. It's your gig. I just wanted to differentiate between the Recovery and Lee.

Originally Posted by UntoHim

Anytime we are discussing "the nature of the Lord's Recovery", I think we are discussing something very subjective. First of all, this thing that many refer to as "the Lord's Recovery" is actually just the little Christian sect of The Local Church of Witness Lee. The whole notion that the Lord needs "a Recovery" is suspect at best, and is really just a man-made notion. It's not in the Bible.

Agreed. Notice that I never refer to the movement as a whole as anything but the "recovery." Shame on you for calling it the "Lord's Recovery" and then walking it back.

There is a vary good reason that many outsiders refer to the LC movement as "The Local Church of Witness Lee" - it is because the whole thing is, and always has been, a personality cult of sorts, based upon the person and work of Witness Lee. In my view, to speak of "the nature of the Lord's Recovery" apart from the nature, character and history of Witness Lee is an exercise in futility. Again, it may make us old guys feel a little better about ourselves, but it belies reality, and even the cold, hard facts of history.

Since I have been exonerated from the bondage of the Recovery, I have many personal opinions. Imagine that! And my personal opinion is that it is helpful to our many readers to display how the Recovery has changed over time, independent of Lee himself. It answers nagging questions which I had, and which our readers may still have.

This is simply my perspective. This is simply my view. I do understand and fully appreciate that others here have a different perspective. Others have different views. And this is ok! In fact, I think it makes for a more interesting and lively discussions. Understand?

I appreciate your many views. They have helped me over the years. I have my views too. Usually our views coincide, occasionally they diverge. It creates lively discussion. Peace!

[UntoHim]

My dear brother Indiana, take heart. There is nothing that anyone can post here that would make your posts of none effect. My goodness, after all, you are posting this within your very own subforum "Writings and Concerns of Steve Isitt". Do you realize that you are the only active member of LocalChurchDiscussions who has his very own subforum? I set this subforum up because I think you have something very valuable for both current and former members of the Local Church. And nothing that any other member posts here can make your posts of none effect!

Please keep in mind that LocalChurchDiscussions does not mean LocalChurchAgreement. Just look at the recent back-and-forth between Ohio and I. The main message to take from all the recent postings here, I believe, is that we are all here for the truth. And we all desire that all concerned - both current and former Local Church members "come to the full knowledge of the truth". Without truth we don't have any light. Without light we will not have life. "In him was life, and the life was the light of men". In the Local Church we heard a lot about life. Life, life life! But the simple fact is that we cannot experience the life of God without God's truth, which is nothing more than, and nothing less than, God's light. The problem is that men love the darkness rather than the light. This is especially true of many religious men. And this is especially true of many Christian men who think that they have all the riches, all the truth and all the light. And this is especially true of us current and former Local Church brothers X 10. May God have mercy.
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[Sons to Glory!]

My big take-away from this little discussion is how the current LC leadership does not appear to exhibit humbleness. As has been pointed out, and brought up many times on here over the years, Lee stated that there were mistakes and that there should be an examination before the Lord. But, to my knowledge, no one in the current LC leadership has done anything like this (have they?).

Jesus Christ is the best example of a Servant Leader, that is, being a Leader by Serving others for their best. He is humble and meek and not boastful. These are characteristics of love. It does not defend itself or tear others down. A true Servant Leader exhibiting Christ, will not try to doggedly defend past practices, and will not see admitting mistakes as something to avoid at all costs. As Paul found out, it is much better to revel in weakness and shortcoming - why? That Christ can be manifested. By admitting mistakes and showing weakness . . . then Christ can come through an individual.

But that is threatening to the self who has built itself up upon years of teachings and practices. Oh Lord have mercy!