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Old 06-30-2020, 12:39 PM   #11
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Default Re: Boxjobox on modalism

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Ohio- have you gone through the book of Acts yet and looked at all the gospels preached and how Jesus was presented?
Peter, John, and Paul in their writing all present Jesus as the Son of God. Paul plainly tells us there is but one God, the Father, and also tells (beseeches) us that keeping the oneness of the Spirit by acknowledging that there is one God, the Father. John summarizes his gospel in saying he wrote all his words so that we would believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God and have life in his name. Jesus, the one you claim as God, says that eternal life is to know the Father, the only true God and Jesus the Christ. Peter, in his 1st epistle says Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. John, in his second epistle says Grace, mercy and peace from God the Father and from Jesus Christ the son of the Father.
John, in the Revelation says that Jesus bought us with his blood and made us a kingdom of priests to his God and Father.
BJB, what you are saying is all true. The Bible definitely teaches this ...

BUT ... then you draw a false conclusion. You say that since Jesus is the Son of God, and God is His Father, then Jesus is not God. Wrong!

In order to make such a conclusion, you must remove many verses from scripture. I cannot do that.

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Ohio, in the LC, and elsewhere for that matter- how often do/did you hear a solid message on The God of our Lord Jesus, or on the God and Father of our Lord Jesus? I really would like an answer to this question. I’ve been a believer now for over 40 years and can not remember hearing any such message in the LC or in Christianity.
Are you serious? I have no way to answer such a question. I have been saved since 1975, and have no way to assess what all I have heard in all of those messages. I have heard many messages on the Lord's Prayer, does that qualify? Most Christians don't spend their time talking about the God of our Lord Jesus, rather they just pray to the God of our Lord Jesus.

I would say that all Christians I know believe Jesus is God, and that God is His Father. It's a mystery we cannot understand with our puny brains.
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