Modalism

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Originally Posted by Ohio

You use a number of human concepts to describe God, I prefer to use the scripture to interpret scripture. They might be helpful, and others too, but only if they are supported by scripture. Every human metaphor has limitations, especially when referring to God Himself.

For example, the Father begot the Son. I have a son. There was a time that he was not, and then he was. Does this also apply to the Son of God? Was there a time when the Son was not? Did Jesus, the Son of God, not exist before 2,000 years ago? aron, you are simply reiterating ancient heretical arguments.

You are not asked to believe what makes sense to you. You are required to believe what you might not understand. It's totally not logical that the Creator of the universe could be born of a virgin and then let Himself be slaughtered on the cross. Makes no sense whatsoever. Billions have refused to believe such nonsense.

By God's love and mercy, I have chosen to believe, not because I understand or because it makes sense, but because I trust the Bible is God's word to me.

Maybe I'm missing something, but is not:

1. Son
2. Father
3. image
4. when you see me you see him
5. when i speak it's his words
6. etc....

...in other words, all those things I had in my post......also in Scripture?

Of course metaphors have limitations, and yet the Bible is rife with them. I'm not the one taking the metaphor into a foreign country. The metaphor just describes their relationship, not necessarily the duration thereof. We could easily say "Jesus said He was the bread of life, but yet bread gets moldy eventually. Does Jesus get moldy?"

A son and a father have a son and father relationship to each other as long as both exist concurrently. Whether human in finite time, or divine in eternal timelessness. Seems straightforward to me.

I'm not aron, by the way.