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Old 05-19-2020, 08:00 AM   #1
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I've made an interesting discovery. I walk a lot. Talk a lot with friends and neighbors. Made a simple conclusion a while ago, which has been true with almost no exception -- the more liberal, the more afraid; and the more conservative, the less afraid.

Perhaps this is because of the news they watch. Perhaps because the conservatives tend to be God-fearing and God-trusting. Perhaps other reasons. Many of the liberals are just spooked irrationally. Many of the conservatives view it as a hoax.

Perhaps it's nothing more than a self-reinforcing prophecy -- some tend to believe what they want to be true.
I too, have done my "walk-a-bouts" and have wondered about this some thing - the God fearing right and the not-so-God fearing left and how they view things like the current situation. As I've said before, I really do see major hypocrisy in BOTH the left and the right (even though my leanings are conservative/libertarian), big time! However, real born-agains break strongly for the GOP it seems, so I've long suspected that those on the right have a little more insight and light into what's really going on.

Christians on the right can certainly go off on some moral high-ground issues that I think are mostly devoid of Christ! And I have to tell ya, even in my close little group of Scottsdale bros, I've seen some real double-mindedness and flip-flops on this virus thing. Which I guess just goes to show how new and unique it all is - people have little in the the way of experience and comfortable norms to help them reason this all out. (which is the perfect situation for Faith to come in . . .)

But, on the whole, I do think the GOP has the edge in the truth department, only because there are more born-agains in that camp . . .
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Old 05-27-2020, 06:22 AM   #2
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But, on the whole, I do think the GOP has the edge in the truth department, only because there are more born-agains in that camp . . .
I have observed that conservatives prefer knowing the truth and applying an objective assessment, and tend to pause until the facts are known. Saw that with Kavanaugh. Same with that Covington HS kid. Another big one was that monuments debate in Charlottesville. Russia collusion. Ukrainian quid pro quo. Trump emoluments. I could go on all day . . .

I even saw it with Joe Biden and Tara Reade. Conservatives paused and wanted due process, same as they did with Kavanaugh, but the Left moved to quickly dismiss and smear the victim messenger.

Being conservative doesn't mean perfection, and there have been many failures, yet being fair and honest is a Christian trait. On the contrary, I see very little fair and honest on the left. Mostly reactionary sheeple who take their marching orders from the daily mass email.
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Old 05-27-2020, 10:17 AM   #3
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Can someone explain to me why the same people who don't need to wear a mask because God will protect them also need an AR-15 because God won't?
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Can someone explain to me why the same people who don't need to wear a mask because God will protect them also need an AR-15 because God won't?
Dr. Fauci said that the mask does nothing, and it's only a symbol.

Stopping a virus with a mask is like restraining mosquitoes with a chain link fence.

After 3 months of this nonsense, people are seeing the hypocrisy in our leaders, especially the Democratic governors, and deciding that wearing masks is a joke. It's nothing more than a fashion statement at this point.

Wearing a mask is more dangerous than not. By hiding one's face, all forms of criminal activity can be done under the cloak of anonymity. There's reasons why criminals hide behind masks, and the dangers from criminals exceeds the dangers from this virus. Because of this, now more than ever people feel the need for firarms.

You should be thankful that you have a great governor in DiSantis.
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The latest science on effectiveness of wearing masks: https://science.sciencemag.org/conte...cience.abc6197
Bottom line: it is not political, it is your way of slowing the spread and showing others that you care about their health!
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Old 05-28-2020, 12:31 PM   #6
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The latest science on effectiveness of wearing masks: https://science.sciencemag.org/conte...cience.abc6197
Bottom line: it is not political, it is your way of slowing the spread and showing others that you care about their health!
Sounds more like virtue signaling than science.

Now the criminals behind masks are telling us what "science" is. Buyer beware!
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Old 05-28-2020, 01:12 PM   #7
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You should be thankful that you have a great governor in DiSantis.
Not as thankful as we are of Kentucky's governor. While DiSantis has done little to protect the health of his citizens, or not as much as my Democratic governor ; Florida's cases are still on the rise, while Kentucky's is on the decline.

See, Trump's retweet that, "The only good democrat is a dead democrat," is far from true. But since when has Trump ever cared about truth? who cares less about human life than Disantis, like so many other republican governors, whether born again or not ; that doesn't seem to move Christians to follow the teachings of Jesus.

What good does being born again do? It doesn't look like any good. It sure doesn't seem to cause loving your neighbor as yourself.
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Not as thankful as we are of Kentucky's governor. While DiSantis has done little to protect the health of his citizens, or not as much as my Democratic governor ; Florida's cases are still on the rise, while Kentucky's is on the decline.
Florida's Governor did much to protect his citizens, especially the sick and the elderly, and that is where he put all of his efforts, contrary to Andrew Cuomo, who forced his nursing homes to take covid- 19 patients. Who would do that? Cuomo is responsible for murdering thousands. In fact, it looks like nearly all the Democratic governors are totally brain dead when it comes to the difficult decisions needed today.
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Progressive Insanity in Minneapolis:
  • George Floyd, a known peacemaker without a criminal record, unknowingly passes a bogus $20 bill
  • Police send 4 cops to arrest him for his "horrendous" crime
  • Cop with long rap sheet of abuses brutally kills the man
  • Hennepin County decides not to arrest the cops until more evidence is found
  • Looters and arsonists destroy the community while police and national guard effectively stand down
  • Mayor calls on looters and rioters to properly "social distance" and wear their masks
  • Police make only one arrest -- a black CNN reporter
  • Riots, looting, shooting, and destruction spread to a city near you
  • Trump calls on Mayor to take decisive action, or he will, and Twitter censors him for "violent" speech
  • Progressive media decides that Minnesota mayhem is all Trump's fault
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