POLL: How do you generally view the LC?

[Jo S]

Originally Posted by Sons to Glory!

Thanks for your answer to this thread's poll questions! You are the first to put an outright F1: "A completely different Christ" & "Was and is a tool of Satan."

(as to the rest regarding the Jesus People, I'll let others respond . . .)

I believe byHismercy holds that honor.

Originally Posted by Sons to Glory!

Concerning the bolded above, can you state this another way? I've read it three times and I'm not entirely sure what you are stating.

For the reason that so many other spiritual movements began at the time of the Jesus movement alludes to the fact that it wasn't God's spirit operating in the forefront. Factor in the lack of repentance in many of the testimonies of that time supports this belief.

[Sons to Glory!]

Originally Posted by Jo S

I believe byHismercy holds that honor.



For the reason that so many other spiritual movements began at the time of the Jesus movement alludes to the fact that it wasn't God's spirit operating in the forefront. Factor in the lack of repentance in many of the testimonies of that time supports this belief.

You are right - ByHismercy did do the first F1. Well I'll have to take your prize away then . . . sorry.

Concerning God's Spirit moving, the fact that other nonChristian groups were exploding at the time doesn't mean God's Spirit was NOT moving then too! To think that is an obvious logical fallacy. I believe when the enemy moves, God will countermove, and visa versa.

[Jo S]

Originally Posted by Sons to Glory!

You are right - ByHismercy did do the first F1. Well I'll have to take your prize away then . . . sorry.

Concerning God's Spirit moving, the fact that other nonChristian groups were exploding at the time doesn't mean God's Spirit was NOT moving then too! To think that is an obvious logical fallacy. I believe when the enemy moves, God will countermove, and visa versa.

That's why I made sure to mention the lack of repentance within the testimonies of Charismatic movements in general. That applies to the Jesus movement as well.

Taking this into account, claiming that the Jesus movement was a move of God when there was a glaring absence of a very specific and necessary precursor to salvation is a biblical fallacy.

StG, were you by chance involved in the Jesus movement?

[Sons to Glory!]

Originally Posted by Jo S

StG, where you by chance involved in the Jesus movement?

Nope. I was a wanna-be hippie of sorts, but no.

[Jo S]

Originally Posted by Sons to Glory!

Nope. I was a wanna-be hippie of sorts, but no.

Ok, I asked because you acknowledged the spirit of the Jesus Movement so I wasn't sure.

Would you say that same spirit was influencing the LC's in the 70's?

[Sons to Glory!]

Originally Posted by Jo S

Ok, I asked because you acknowledged the spirit of the Jesus Movement so I wasn't sure.

Would you say that same spirit was influencing the LC's in the 70's?

Spirits are unseen. I was led of the Lord to the LC in early 70s, and He was there at that time. Who knows whatever spirits were also there . . .

[Jo S]

Originally Posted by Sons to Glory!

Spirits are unseen. I was led of the Lord to the LC in early 70s, and He was there at that time. Who knows whatever spirits were also there . . .

StG, it seems like you're backing off your previous statement where you were arguing in favor of the Jesus movement as being a genuine move of God's spirit;

Originally Posted by Sons to Glory!

Could be, but not necessarily. The Spirit was very strong back then, and most acknowledge that the Jesus People, and others then, were evidence of this move - a "genuine move of God" as a response to the mess that the counter-culture and turbulent times of the 60s gave us.

For clarity I'm asking is if you're willing to commit to the belief that it was the same spirit involved in the growth of the LC's that was also heading the Jesus movement.

I'm curious to know your opinion on that since I wasn't a part of the Jesus people or a member of the LC's in the 70's like you were. Thanks.